I am not allowed to credit the site that has this disaster. Its owner said "Nobody should see that"
The author should be killed for indentation alone.
I know, right? Needs more tab.
Client: "Can you switch these two colours, you have 1 minute to fix it or you're fired!"
Result:
I'm appalled that classes representing visual styles are still a thing. I thought everyone already figured that it was a bad idea back in bootstrap days. But then I recently had an opportunity to work on project that uses Vuetify and saw quite long poems about flexboxes in class names...
And then came Tailwind…
I know! What a mistake of a framework. Glad my colleagues drummed it out of me.
Aren't classes in CSS supposed to represent visual styles? What else could they be for?
Pretty sure they're referring to class names describing the visual style being applied, rather than what that class represents semantically.
E.g. .red-bold vs. .error-text
Oh, that makes sense.
"Figured it was a bad idea" actually means that some people were against it because they believed semantic class names were the solution, I was one of them. This was purely ideological, it wasn't based on practical experience because everyone knew maintaining CSS was a bitch. Heck, starting a new project with the semantic CSS approach was a bitch because if you didn't spend 2 months planning ahead you'd end up with soup that was turning sour before it ever left the stove.
Bootstrap and the likes were born out of the issues the semantic approach had, and their success and numbers are a testimony to how real the issue was, and I say this as someone who never used and despised bootstrap. Maintaining semantic CSS was hard, starting was hard, the only thing that approach had going for it was this idea that you were using CSS the way it was meant to be used, it had nothing to do with the practicality. Sure, your html becomes prettier to look at, but what good is that when your clean html is just hiding the monstrosity of your CSS file? Your clean html was supposed to be beneficial to the developer experience, but it never succeeded in doing that.
Well, there's not exactly a ~~class~~ training you have to take before writing CSS, so everyone starting out with it gets to make all those same mistakes for themselves before they know how to use classes sensibly. I myself am some backend guy, who has to write CSS far too often.
It certainly also does not help that various CSS frameworks out there do exactly that...
color: lime !important;
z-index: 1000000;
I love the superstitious z-index just in case it does something to help.
At least that's actually easy and quick to do and is the only way of doing it. Centering a div however has 81639393 ways and it seems the one that works is different every time
Bro its so easy bro, just use flexboxgridcolumns its been a standard since 2010 just flex it bro you haven't learned to flex yet just check w3c schools and add a flex you can polyfill it but don't use that hacked one use the good flexpolyfill then { content-align-middle-child-elements: center-middle-true-neutral } so easy with flex bro
I know you meant this sarcastically, but yes, flex is a good option for centering something. Either that or setting the left and right margins of the element to auto, which is generally even easier.
Basically, if you're in a flex container use flex, if you're in a grid use grid, and if neither of those apply set the left and right margins to auto.
Also seriously, anybody having problems with flexbox should try this:
I'm not sure there's any version of it for grids, but IMO grids are inherently more intuitive, so it may not be needed. Flexbox is the one that is hard to learn.
Well, flexbox and grid have different purposes in my opinion/experience. Personally I use grid for "top level" layouts like the layout of the whole site, while I tend to prefer flexbox for layouts inside the grid. Of course that's just a rule of thumb, there are absolutely cases where this isn't the best option.
Also exists as Tower Defense
Well, that's what you get for using classes like "white" and "lime".
Exactly this. Bootstrap killed the css star.
People learning CSS through shitty frameworks:
I am very, very surprised about the competence of the commenters here. I have had many discussions on reddit about the advantages of meaningful instead of presentational class-naming and you're normally met with great resistance, especially with users of frameworks like Bootstrap and Tailwind.
Here, everyone seems to either 'get it' or is willing to hear why classes like .lime are bad. Very cool.
People that advocate for presentation naming haven't endured a major company rebrand.
No! I wanted orange!
Not allowed to credit the site in your text editor?
Is the owner in the room with you now?
This screenshot is not mine, it was sent to me via Matrix
You get used to it. I don't even see the code
Do you have a built-in browser in your brain that renders it?
All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead. Hey uh, you want a drink?
Free drink? Absolutely
It's good for two things: De-greasing engines and killing brain cells.
It's only now that I realise that I understood that reference so late
Took ya a bit Keanu, but you got there.
I hate all webdev beyond using raw HTML, CSS and Javascript to make your own crappy website
the userstyle experience:
Yeah, userstyles are wild. You learn so many ways how to not use CSS. Everything is !important and rather than adjusting the HTML to change the structure, you get to do it all in CSS. 🫠
flex-direction:row-reverse; my beloved
At first I only noticed the indent. Wtf
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