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What do you guys think about this glasses to use daily to escape Facial Recognition? Worth the price? Does it really work?

https://reflectacles.com

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is also how we stop our biggest abusers of our service. They leave such a unique fingerprint from all our other customers, we just quietly shadowban them.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I prefer dazzle paint. It looks way more badass.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It doesn’t need to be as dramatic as this. The goal is simply to obscure key parts of the face that are commonly used for individualization. Between the eyebrows, the bridge of the nose, jawline, eye tilt, etc are all common key data points that facial recognition systems use to differentiate between similar faces. You can also try to avoid facial detection from pinging you in the first place, by obscuring the expected oval head shape. Style your hair asymmetrically, have bangs that droop over one eye, break up the expected round shape, use a color that mismatches your skintone, etc…

Your face paint is definitely an extreme example of the latter. But the important part is that some may actually still be able to detect a face (even if it can’t positively identify them) because they didn’t do anything to obscure the head shape or obscure at least one of their eyes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But I want it to be as dramatic as this.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

And that's how I got kicked out of the local trader joes...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

In what direction are you moving in? I can't tell!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I doubt they work, and they're definitely not worth the price imo

I can get a pair of prescription sunglasses for less than that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Idk if regular sunglasses will prevent your face from being captured by facial recognition systems.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I don't believe the glasses you linked will do so either lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And how exactly are these glasses preventing that ? Simple ray optics would suggest otherwise !

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems more like an art project than a functional product. Highly doubt it'll work

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, We're looking for that idiot in the stupid sunglasses, a tinfoil hat, and a fedora.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's a sick Raving outfit

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I suppose putting on a very unique pair of glasses would for sure avoid facial recognition. Why would there be a need to recognize your face if u make yourself so obviously different vs others. Haha.

A dumbass camera would be sufficient. No need for complicated facial recognition camera.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not how they work. They're highly reflective, so they block analog cameras, and they're infrared blocking, so they stop auto focus.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if majority wear this to prevent facial recognition, they won't be standing out anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@learningduck @chairman Great!.... so just wait for everyone else to buy these first

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Okay. Who's doing the PDF deep dive and letting us know how this works in TL;DR format?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I read somewhere that during covid there was a big shift in recognition techniques to overall facial morphology & gait recognition.

I'll try & find an article. Mask up & keep a coin in your shoe.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Put your grasses on, nothing will be wrong...

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Worth the price is subjective. Are you a wanted criminal, or planning a heist? Then probably yes. Otherwise, probably no.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe attending a protest in China?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I would definitely want something more than these glasses in that case, but that's another possible use for them for sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe you just want to look sick at the next rave.

Not their intended purpose, but that's the only one that doesn't sound stupid

Edit: looking at their website, that might be their intended target audience.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only thing they block is the eyes, nothing is obscured otherwise, their own demos on their website show that.

I personally won't be wasting my money, if I want to obscure my face I'll wear a face mask and color contacts like I already do.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I can tell, these supposedly protect you from facial recognition because they reflect IR. I'm not an expert in security cameras, but don't they only use IR at night? While they could technically run 24/7, that would burn out the LEDs in half the time.

These are also quite similar to the "anti-paparazi" reflective clothing. If you are interested in these as a statement piece, those might be of interest to you as well.

These seem like the developer came up with the function of the sunglasses after coming up with the sunglasses (after being inspired by the anti-paparazi clothes).

All in all, I don't really see much value in these sunglasses; and I suppose I wouldn't really be that concerned about facial recognition with proper masking safety, anyways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I’m not an expert in security cameras, but don’t they only use IR at night?

Precisely. And good security cameras with Sony sensors only need IR when it's pitch black. During dawn, dusk and summer nights at Nordic latitudes they don't even switch to night mode, showing sharp full-color image almost 24/7—watching that footage you wouldn't even realize that it's taken in natural light with sun below the horizon.

And facial recognition is a standard feature these days. It's become so good that you can have two pictures of the same person, one taken at age 15 and the other at age 95, and it can still say with >95% confidence that it's the same person. And that's the prosumer-level stuff available to every Jack and Joe to install to their small business or suburban house. I don't even want to think about what the alphabet soup orgs could have access to.

I have some experience with Dahua cameras and NVR-s. Their technical capabilities are both amazing and scary at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Any sources to back up that a vague amount of infrared of the eye region is so meaningfully essential to face recognition systems? My sunglasses reflect most visible light, and they reflect some infrared light, and they cost $5. Even granting that very shaky claim, infrared blocking materials aren't that expensive, this seems like a gimmick to make up for big prices.

A mask and any sunglasses or hat will prevent facial recognition 1000x better I suspect.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Dunno what those cost, but a pair of IR blocking safety glasses are like 15 bucks or less, blend in a whole lot better, and won't make you stand out like a shining beacon in video.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wonder, could you get them with prescription lenses or would it defeat the purpose of the glasses?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I am always reminded on the scramble suit from a Scanner Darkly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Mate they're ugly as hell, i won't buy that shit

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