Biden is old. Trump is a traitor. There. Fixed it for you.
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Trump would be a traitor AND the oldest elected president ever.*
Biden was the oldest president ever elected. Trump is 3 years younger than Biden. If Trump theoretically wins, he'd be the oldest elected president ever beating Biden by a year.
Thank God he will be in prison. I just hope a judge finally revokes his bond after making jokes about fleeing to Russia to get pegged by Putin.
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I will take old over corrupt any day.
Next?
It's absolutely insane that this is even being debated. Biden could keel over tomorrow and he would still make the better president.
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Trump is all four. I wish we wouldn't turn every election into a years long grueling horserace.
Two out of four is still pretty bad...
We shouldn't be satisfied with "better than trump" because that's roughly 99% of the population.
Unfortunately we don't get a choice, and the people not letting us have a choice are too stupid to realize why voter turnout is constantly shit.
We shouldn’t be satisfied with “better than trump” because that’s roughly 99% of the population.
Spend some more time with his voter base and you'll bump that figure down a bit
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You're basically right; They're actually smart, but not in a nice way and not that smart. First past the post voting essentially guarantees this dynamic; duopoly a la Good Cop Bad Cop.
They know they can skate by on that, but they're not afraid enough of the fact that the insurrection has not ended, and will only escalate. Their Bad Cop isn't a method actor, but an actual bad cop who already has a drop piece with their name on it.
Fascism has never yet been defeated without an actual fight. This time isn't different.
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Right, Biden is an old and decrepit 80 while Trump is a young and virile 77.
He's quite spry. Watch how he runs from the law.
Biden is old. Trump is old, corrupt, and a traitor.
If you don't vote Trump will likely win because old people do vote and most will vote for Trump. So get out and vote against Trump at least.
This old fuck will never vote for that Putin-sucking, diaper-filling-while-denying-it, corrupt asshole of a traitor, but I agree with your message.
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The only reason why I have a hard time believing that's true is that he barely won last time and he's burnt a lot of bridges since then, not to mention killed a lot of his constituency with COVID.
Not saying you're wrong I just can't wrap my brain around it.
We couldn't wrap our brains around Trump winning the first time. Just vote in every election.
I'll repeat it in case anyone has missed it.
JUST VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION.
We have to go vote in every, single, election. The right spent the last 70 years cultivating a base full of ignorant bigots so they'd turn out to vote against black people and hippies. They even got hateful fuckers to run for boring things like school boards and city councils. That shit paid dividends for them as we're all witnessing today with a gerrymandered congress and school boards deciding they're not going to teach things because the truth hurts their feelings.
The only way we win long term is to go vote in every single election and drag the country back to the left (the real left, not the current crop of milquetoast corporate-democrats) so we can have a real conversation about things that really impact peoples lives, like ranked choice, wage theft, national healthcare, and UBI.
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Can we please get a non-fascist under 50?
Please?
AOC, please.
She won't meet the minimum requirements before 2024.
Minimum is being 35 and she'll hit that 23 days before the election:
October 13th, 1989.
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Trump is just about as old as Biden. A distinction without a difference.
Neither of those words really need to be in quotes.
I wonder if Biden's age helps him to some extent, since if that's the only bad thing you can think of while the other guy is "corrupt" that doesn't seem so bad to me. If he wasn't old maybe you'd see the "typical politician" criticisms like "phony" or something.
Not even a little bit.
Biden's age isn't just a number. The guy really acts very, very old.
Even when he gave the speech in response to the court striking down student loans, when he was all fired up, and announcing some pretty powerful policies... even then he just seemed so sleepy and low energy.
Trump, for all his many, many, many, many disqualifying flaws, still seems feisty and energetic in comparison.
That said, Bernie Sanders is even older, but I'd vote for him even if he were on his deathbed. Bernie Sanders' corpse would do a better job representing the people than would any Republican, and 90 percent of Democrats.
I'm not saying it's not a bad thing, but it crowds out some other bad thing that people would feel about him instead.
Sure Trump seems more energetic, he would win in a how-old-do-they-seem competition, but in a who-should-be-president competition I'd rather have someone slow in his competence vs energetic in his corruption.
Probably the next-worst thing wouldn't be that Biden's corrupt but conceivably it could be worse than just being old.
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