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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Who cares?

If God exists in the Judeo Christian sense, they seemingly fucked off and stopped caring a while back and creation hit perpetual motion status a while back for better or worse

If I was created in their image they totally get why I'm skeptical given the rest of their fan club and also gestures around

If you want to believe in that stuff: do you. I legit hope you get something positive or if it, BUT... Just like crossfit, veganism or astrology; I can hang in a casual conversation, but don't recruit me. I did my research. Not for me, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know, and no one has any good arguments.

A god is not required to explain anything in the universe, so I just assume a god does not exist.

In the Cristian sense of god, god has no direct effect on the world, making the question meaningless.

It would be the same as believing there is an teapot in orbit between Uranus and Neptune, too small and dark to see with any telescope. I could say it exists, and no one would be able to disprove me, but that doesn't make it real.

Strangely enough, if instead of a teapot (which at least would be possible, if hugly impractical to find) you use an entity that is invisible, intangible, does not do anything else that could allow it to be detected (most omni-gods), then billions believe it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter what I believe; what matters is that God believes in itself. Gotta keep that spirit up!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

… and would you give the same answer if asked at a checkpoint in Afghanistan?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, and this shouldn’t matter to you or anyone else.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not

I dont believe in anything like gods, ghosts, magic etc

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

No. I can't prove he doesn't exist but I've seen no proof he does, and it seems extremely unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

No. I have no use for that hypothesis.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Which of the 1’000 or so proposed ones are you talking about? (The answer is no for all of them for the same reason: A complete lack of evidence)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I can't imagine a world with god in it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if the answer is not important but how we respond to the answer (or lack of an answer) is what matters most. Different believers of the same god(s) and religion can either feed and clothe the less fortunate or genocide nations.

If there is one or more god(s) out there and their fundamental core value is love, I would think they would not care if we get the answer right or even care about acknowledgement with prayer and rituals, but they would be more interested in how we treat each other and the world that we live in by keeping love as a core value in our lives.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No.

Also this isn't an open-ended question.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I'm an atheist, I don't believe in the existence of any god or divine figure, nor in ghosts, spirits, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I have not since I was 14. I don't completely dismiss the possibility of one but I think it is incredibly unlikely.

But if you believe in one, have at it. As long as you are not forcing me or others to be involved, I don't care.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes. (I'm a protestant Christian.)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I believe in the possibility of a creator, be it a single omniscient/omnipresent/omnipowerful/etc being or some natural process we do not understand.

But do I have enough evidence to swear fealty to any particular thing that might occupy this role? Fuck no.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

No. The universe just is a thing that exists.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I usually understand God as meaning "Nature". Some of my religious friends also throw in there the notions of "events", " happenstance", "chance", etc. basically a mishmash of everything we cannot explain either because of its complexity, or because we don't have fitting models. On days I feel low, I like to think of the universe as having a purpose, a presence, and talk to it as if my voice reached the furthest stars, penetrated the densest nebulæ. It's obvious anthropomorphism, but it makes me feel a bit better. I can only suppose it is the same for religious people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was a gnostic atheist but became agnostic atheist. I am very much against organised religions, but I believe anyone should be able to believe in anything they want. At the conditions that they do not try to shove it down the throat of others or hurt anyone with their beliefs.
On God, the thing that made me change my mind is that you cannot clearly define what God is (the definition varies from person to person), so you can't be certain that it does or doesn't exist. Is God a bearded dude in the sky? Nature ? The Universe ?
As far as I'm concerned, if God exists, it would be very pretentious to think that it gives a crap about us, and even then, it would probably not be benevolent. Especially when you consider the amount of suffering happening on earth everyday.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not in a religious way.

All evidence points to religion being about control of the poor. For example, the Christian old testament was originally written in a language the poor could not read, and translating it was illegal. And almost all have a group at the top profiting off the many that have much less.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I don't, and I find it hard to understand how people truly believe it. I guess it's a search for meaning. I don't get why people feel they need a make believe creator to set their moral compass. Having said that, as long as people don't push their beliefs on others my general philosophy is live and let live.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, Im in my 30s and lost my belief in God during college.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Nope, not at all, nor in anything supernatural. They tried to indoctrinate me into catholicism, but I realized at age 8 or 9 that it was all a crock of shit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I don’t believe in God, although it’s very nice to have somebody to pray to when you are in a bad situation with no control. Like there is still a way for things to go right because even if you don’t have control, somebody has.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have a more complicated answer these days than I used to... the short answer is "no," but the caveats make it longer.

I don't believe in a god in the sense of an all knowing human type being that has thoughts and wishes and passes down commandments -- basically, not the religious kind of God.

At the same time, I appreciate a lot of the Jewish traditions I grew up with, and Judaism has a lot more lassitude around what "God" means to you. To me, it's Baruch Spinoza's conception of God ... basically, just "the universe," of which each person is an integral part.

So in a "college freshman on acid feeling one with the universe," kind of way, sure I believe in God. In a, "He got upset I masturbated way," then no, not at all.

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If by "God" you mean an intelligence and power that created everything, including us, no I do not. I don't think any intelligence or wisdom is enough to create this thing called universe or these bunch of universes. To me "intelligence" is a tool developed by some live beings in order to succeed and prosper in the world, not a tool to create and maintain universes.

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