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[–] [email protected] 95 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (26 children)

No, Just Stop Oil is not an "activist" group. They're in cahoots with the enemy. They're defamation, and their intent is to give the radical right something to point to.

Just Stop Just Stop Oil.

EDIT: There are waaaaaaay too many assumptions happening in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Huh. This is actually the most sensible answer.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I once read a pretty good write up somewhere on Reddit with proof that they were getting reasonably large financial support from the daughter of an oil baron, and it's unclear if she supports the left or right.

On the other hand, a friend of a friend was arrested at a just stop oil rally in Manchester, UK a few months back, and I know him well enough to absolutely believe he thought he was doing what was best for the world, although I'm unsure if he'd deface anything.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Those two things are not incongruous. Your friend was deceived by the leadership who is in the pocket of oil companies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (13 children)

you got some proof for that?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

So let‘s talk about the first article. It‘s written by art critic Alexander Adams who likes to talk about things like „why the Left hates good art“

https://soundcloud.com/user-923838732/alexander-adams-why-the-left-hates-good-art

Just the style of writing in this article gives away a lot:

The self-professed aims of these organisations and their millionaire backers are to bypass politics and implement radical measures upon the world’s population without democratic consultation.

the referenced piece here is written by a Breitbart editor by the way.

Anyway, so Just Stop Oil are going to bypass the world‘s democratic order? Yeah? By demanding them to follow through with their climate pledges? Oh man.

Also, it is no news, that the Getty heir is contributing to various funds, so what. I am a landlord and support Extinction Rebellion, does that make their actions inauthentic?

The reality is that the UK is using pretty straight forward laws to prevent this kind of protest, they don‘t need some kind of internationalist cabal to do that for them.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Normally I'm tepid on this kinda headline getting, but I feel like Stonehenge of all things is not the ideal target for the supposed intent of these kinds of protests.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I have the suspicion for a while that the people behind those new climate movements are paid by oil companies and others to make climate activists look bad, and shift the public opinion about climate action.

All the actions seem to deliberately targeted to anger the mainstream about them.

Making the naive climate activists at the front the tool of conglomerates.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

But it raises the question why some paint on some big old rocks is more outrageous than anything the oil & gas lobby did in the past 50 years.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (61 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Obligatory Astroturfing warning.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

Rebecca Watson has an interesting video on this. The way things are going right now, people in 50 years will look back and say activists were the only people trying something, while most of us just waited for the shit to hit the fan.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

News about climate change: i sleep

News about climate protests: REAL SHIT?

I hate how people are more interested in talking about protests than actual climate change.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It doesn't help several of these protests have been proven to be started BY polluting companies to discredit climate protests.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Climate change is being talked every single goddamn day. It's been a constant thing people talk for a long while. Sometimes it's overshadowed by other topics but the talk has never stopped. This shit isn't some silenced issue. The issue isn't how much people are talking but how little people are doing.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Is cornstarch paint?

By that logic, could water be considered paint?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

That will teach those neolithic druids to think about their long term impact on the planet!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Climate protesters seem to have a knack for doing really irrelevant shit to bring attention to climate change.

No one dies? No one loses their balls? No beatings?

Is the planet dying or not? If so wtf is powder paint gonna do except fuck it up more???

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's the only way they can get the news to engage with it

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (5 children)

At least someone is doing something. The governments are way to slow imho. Also, there is literally no harm done. So everybody hyperventilating in the comments should maybe calm down a little.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (21 children)

At least someone is doing something

Yeah, actively giving talking points to right wing climate policy opponents and alienating the people that support their cause. That sure is something.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I'm all for peaceful environmental protesting, but destruction of property and historic monuments/items only makes your movement look worse. News will spin it as the protesters being vandals and go about their day. Most people won't think beyond that and will probably associate environmental activism with negative things such as vandalism or whatever else their favorite news calls what they're doing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Powder, its quite likely water soluble

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (10 children)

People will use this to galvanize efforts against climate action, and it will work. If you want to seriously do something, go after the people causing the crisis.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Environmental protesters sprayed paint on Stonehenge on Wednesday, with footage showing an orange powder covering some of the stones.

Two protesters dressed in white were seen running towards two of the megaliths and spraying paint, as another person attempted to stop them, in footage released by Just Stop Oil, an environmental activist group focused on the issue of human-caused climate change.

The prehistoric structure dates back to somewhere between 3100 BC and 1600 BC, according to archaeologists.

Just Stop Oil has drawn criticism for targeting public treasures in the past, including the vandalism of Van Gogh's Sunflowers with tomato soup in a publicity stunt at London's National Gallery in 2022.

Less than a year later, two protesters from the group disrupted play during the Wimbledon Tennis Championships, running onto the court throwing confetti from a picture-puzzle box featuring an image of Wimbledon's famed Center Court.

On the eve of that tournament, celebrities including Richard Curtis and Emma Thompson had called on Wimbledon to end its partnership with Barclays Bank over the institution's multibillion-dollar support for fossil fuel projects.


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