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The study made some strong remarks about the kind of people who would modify their car's exhaust. If psychopathy and sadism aren't bad enough, apparently loud truck owners would do even worse.

  • A professor in Ontario, Canada, has released results of a study of people's attitudes toward loud vehicles.
  • Having asked undergraduate business students whether they think such vehicles are "cool," the result, not totally surprisingly, was that many of them do.
  • Respondents also scored high on the "psychopathy and sadism" scale, but the study was only for cars. Truck and motorcycle owners, the study suggests, might score even worse.

A new study by Western University in Ontario says that if you've got a car with a modified exhaust system, odds are you're a guy and probably also psychotic and sadistic. Slapping a Cherry Bomb glasspack on your Monte Carlo doesn't (necessarily) mean you're a Ted Bundy–level psycho, but the data someone points to a personality that enjoys inflicting unpleasantness on others. The study—catchily titled, "A desire for a loud car with a modified muffler is predicted by being a man and higher scores on psychopathy and sadism"—was commissioned by professor Julie Aitken Schermer, who heard many a loud car in London, Ontario, and wondered what kind of person would want their car exhaust to be louder than normal. She probably could have saved a lot of time by simply looking up Cadillac Escalade-V registrations. ...

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, going out of the way to make something more annoying by imposing loud sounds on everyone around them is like yelling at everyone.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (40 children)

And importantly, it shows that you are not phased by the discomfort you are inflicting on others

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 months ago (3 children)

In my experience most of them enjoy discomforting and upsetting others. It gives them some kind of ego high.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago

"I annoy, therefore I exist" - Annoying assholes

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Where I work, I have to talk to customers through a window using a mic/speaker, and I have a customer who has like 50 "too loud? too bad!" stickers plastered all over his car, and he used to constantly show up blaring music at absurd volumes.

He'd walk up to my window and I couldn't hear a damn word he said, and when I told him I couldn't hear him he couldn't fucking hear me either. It took several visits before he learned to turn his music down before coming to my window. He's the dumbest customer I've ever had, I stg.

There were also a couple times where a customer actually opened his door and turned his music off themselves so that they could tell me what they wanted.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Yep, next do the people that listen to music on the train without headphones.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

(Obligatory acknowledgement that "psychotic" is not an accurate description of what the study or journal article said, that was an erroneous description by Car & Driver. "Sociopathic" or "sadistic" might be more accurate, based on the study.)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

Psychotic is not the same thing as psychopathic. Psychotic is someone who suffers from a psychosis.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"New study confirms that my worldview is correct"

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Truck and motorcycle owners, the study suggests, might score even worse.

From my anecdotal and personal evidence, I can confirm that every biker that makes their exhaust extra loud (which is illegal in Brazil, btw) is a fucking asshole.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There is a special place in hell for the guy in my apartment complex that starts up his motorcycle at 6:30am just to leave it there, loudly idling, for a good half hour before he finally drives off

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like it would violate a noise ordinance and that he's providing ample time for cops to come harass him.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’ve got an aftermarket resonator that I replaced my stock muffler with. It enhances some of the noises the car makes to give it a better, bass-y, rumbly sound (while also improving performance a small amount by reducing back pressure, but I’m not sure how much that makes a difference since I have catalytic converters well before the resonator).

But I was careful to find one that made the car sound good but not LOUD. Because I cannot stand people who run a straight pipe or muffler/cat delete on neighborhood streets.

Do whatever you want on a circuit, but that car should not be used where people live. Same with your modded Harley that’s louder than a jet, or your “off-road” truck that’s never seen a spec of dirt but sounds like a goddamn volcano.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So it’s what we all thought all along: they are attention seeking morons.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But now we can say "Scientifically speaking, they are attention seeking morons."

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Time to include this in the DSM
Edit: apparently the paper is more than a year old. And here is the doi to the original paper:
https://doi.org/10.5114%2FCIPP%2F162006

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Funny that this came out of London Ontario, one of the most carbrained cities of its size in North America (I grew up there).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not Just Bike's - Fake London?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah, same city.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (16 children)

I hate loud noises more than anything. If I were a dictator, I would make it open season on people with loud cars or motorcycles. Just on-sight, consequence-free murder. It would still be legal to mod your car or bike like that, you would just have to accept that everyone will be permitted to kill you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Think of all the gun shot noise! You haven't thought of the gun shot noise, Dee!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

What a dumb article and subsequent post. I'm anti-carbrain too, but this copium is at OD levels

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Eh, the study design seems sus. It seems she hypothesized that such people may be psychopathic and lead with a survey which confirmed as such. Survey design is super tricky for psychological research.

Moreover, the students responding to the survey are not the car owners proper, instead these students are car enthusiasts. The level of car modding or gear headedness of the responder is required to lend credence to the study results.

Could someone comment on the effect sizes observed in the study? I can’t look it up right now. But the above are just my initial impressions, so happy to be corrected

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Were we expecting anything good from people whose only contribution to the artistic output of humanity is "HEAR MY CAR FART"?

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