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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gotta love the Satanists. They're fighting the good fight.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

And best of all, they’re not even satanists. They just call themselves an edgy name

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yep! "What do you call someome who believes in a literal Satan?" .. "Christian."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Christians don't understand that. Apparently the satanic panic never ended.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Satanic panic is their whole life. I really pity them. They live in constant fear of not only their god who supposedly "loves" them, but another deity who also doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I live with such a person and you are correct. It really is their whole life. Said person put their hands on me and tried to shout the demons out of me because I disagreed with them.

Funnily enough, no demons were forthcoming.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

That's not strictly true. They don't worship Satan, or even believe in "him" as an entity or being, but it's more than just getting under the skim of the churchians. They anthropomorphize the concept of Satan the archetype and learn from the philosophy of such a being as described.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not for any religious discrimination.

They should all be worshipped privately and have no governmental supporting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They should all be worshipped privately

Pretty sure the bible specifically mentions that too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey, don't you go bringing the Bible into this discussion about religion!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, Republicans hate when you do that because they're completely unarmed!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

the Temple [...] named a telehealth abortion clinic after Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito’s mom.

This is a beautifully poetic insult and I love it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Please consider donating to the Satanic Temple if you can. They're doing important work fighting Christian Nationalism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

For those out there who only read headlines, the short of it is that many Satanists are rarely actually worshipers of Satan like a deity, many of them are just proactive atheists who have adopted the most abhorrent religious identity possible to Christians to provide necessary pushback against attempts at making the USA a Christian nation.

The same people who scream relentlessly about supporting the constitution for issues like gun control, seem just fine with abandoning the 1st amendment's Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clauses. So Satanists are forcing Christians to declare their choices out loud. If you're going to say the law should allow religion to be part of government, then you have to be fine with all religions being involved, OR you have to admit that you don't respect the USA's founding principles and documents. You can't have it both ways.

There is not so much Satanism being promoted here as much as a spotlight on hypocrisy and I'm all in for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

We don't worship Satan because mythological supernatural creatures simply don't exist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Don't really need the Satanists. Just tell conservatives that anything they want to mandate that is Christian can also/ will be done for Muslims. Notice how the war on Chirstmas always heats up around the time Ramadan coincides with it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm a Satanist and affiliated with neither CoS or TST. The leadership of TST are not good people. One of them tried to make himself the god of a cargo cult and the other has a history of making racist, antisemitic and ablist statements. He also owned a website about eugenics until 2018.

That video I linked to is long but it is very well sourced and I hope might give you a bit more insight into who you're supporting if you choose to join or donate to them. There's a lot of comments under the video from ex-TST members, including Ministers and Chapter Heads who've been badly burnt by TST.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bet cuckservatives would rather allow satanism into their schools if.. it was suggested that Islam too should be included.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Prosperity Gospel is so close to LaVeyan Satanism that it barely makes a difference.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to guess the religious promotion of self-indulgence and self-gratification.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but the satanists are honest about it. Prosperity bs is directly refuted by the Bible in many places.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Prosperity given by divine, therefore the rightful and just, stands in the direct oppositition of every single base belief of Satanism. Human is a the center, there is no divine. Satanism equires respect for others to be given, and expected from others. Boundaries to be respected. Advances need permission.

Will of god, the prosperity, is just an excuse to forego any compassion for others. Therefore respect.

If you break boundaries, show no respect, you are to be destroyed.

Even the magic to achieve goals, desires and such. Even this stands against the prosperity by divine. Satanism discards divine intervention. It is a human action.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Satanist don't actually want in, they want religion out

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That’s my religious organization! Proud to be a regular donor. Highly recommend everyone joins and donates, they’re truly doing great work

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For a moment I thought you were going to say "doing God's work"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

I was going to say doing Satan’s work, but we’re actually nontheists

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm Christian, but have given them money.

Separating church and state makes better government AND better churches.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good on you. It's always refreshing to hear from Christian folks who have a strong enough moral compass to steer away from (let alone actively support direct opponents of) some of the more zealous or bigoted views which unfortunately seem to be growing stronger in the Christian community as of late.

I say this from the outside looking in, as I've never been associated with any church myself, so this viewpoint of mine may just be the result of an increasingly active vocal minority.

But I'm very curious to hear your experience as someone within the community; have you yourself seen growth in these types of zealous or bigoted views in the past several years within the Christian Community? Things like stronger, more vocal, or even unwavering support of anti-abortion or anti-LGBTQ laws/practices?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I'm a United Methodist and former clergy, and the last 5 years have been whiplash.

We've spent 50 years trying to make the denomination more inclusive and accepting towards homosexuals, but for some organizational reasons (primarily a heavy-African vote in the worldwide governing body of the church) it's been difficult, and the more "traditional" wing of the church has been dragging us backwards.

We have our global conference (basically the legislative session of the church) every 4 years. In 2012 it got very heated. In 2016 the debate got downright nasty to the point where they had to calm a special session just to debate homosexuality in 2019 simply so the church could move on with the rest of the conference.

2019 was really, really bad. The traditionalists got their way on every issue.

The biggest blow was changing how church trials worked. As it was, "practicing" homosexuals were barred from the clergy, and officiating over a gay marriage was a de-frockable offense under church law. But that wasn't that bad in reality, because Methodist Clergy are very educated and overwhelmingly disagreed with the rules, so when it came to a church trial the jury (made up of other clergy) refused to punish. In 2019, they changed the rule to remove clergy's option to not punish.

The only ray of hope was the recommendation of a path to allow individual churches to leave the church but keep their land. It was basically the admission that the church was going to go through a schism. It looked for all the world that those who wanted to be more inclusive would have to start a new denomination.

But then the weirdest thing happened.

The ultra-conservatives were still mad even though they'd won. They were so mad, in fact, that they wanted to get rid of those who had opposed them. But there was no way to kick out churches who weren't controlled by Fox News. So they huffed and puffed and got so angry they decided to start their own super-bigoted Republican church anyway. They called it the Global Methodist Church since they figured the rest of the world would follow them and they left the denomination starting in 2021 when the path for disaffiliation opened up. In all, they got about a quarter of the US churches - mostly small rural churches that depended heavily on funding from the larger organization they were leaving...

A few weeks ago the 2024 conference was held. Due to Vivid it was the first real conference we'd had since 2016.

Gay marriage, gay clergy, and accepting homosexuality as being a-OK all passed with over 90% support. Everyone who had voted against it before had either left the denomination or been so repulsed by the fringe actors who had that they changed their position.

It's been a ride.