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[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We replaced about 60-70% of our backyard with native plants, trees, and shrubs. It was a shit ton of work but I saw a hummingbird for the first time in my life! And moths mimicking hummingbirds. And friendly bees. And weird beetles. And other birds galore. I rarely have to water.

Now our preschooler has room to roam and so so much to explore (and weird bugs to chase mom around with).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Such a heartwarming story. Thank you. Reminds me of my grandfather and his garden when he was alive.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

What all did you do to replace it? I'm starting to reclaim my yards in my new place (finally getting dandelions!!) and my initial attempt at clover didn't take as much as I wanted it to. Really want to get my yard to as close as native and wildlife friendly as my city will allow.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not op but I grow pollinator gardens in my community garden which typically attracts bees, hummingbirds etc.; check with your local nursery because there should be a native plant seed mix you can buy.

You may be a little late in the season (assuming northern hemisphere) for most seed mixes because I've mostly seen suggested sowing in fall or late spring

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Depending on where you live the common dandelion may not be a native plant. They were introduced to North America from Europe.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

For better or worse, my local/state government doesn't consider them noxious weeds because they're so firmly established that we can never get rid of them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

More not worth the cost to fight, so embrace it. Our city stoped spraying for broadleaf maybe 5 years back.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

(finally getting dandelions!!)

My friend they grow in the film of construction dust that has built up in the gutter of my shed

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

DM me with your location and I can pass you some resources. :)

Dandelions are the best. I try to harvest them when I can get a bunch for lotion and things. They're nitrogen affixers. They help heal the soil.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Aesthetically pleasing my ass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I don't want to...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

It's not even aesthetically pleasing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There's a guy on youtube that talks about bringing back native plants to an area and all the benefits that come with it.

He usually just does a controlled burn and comes back a while later and it's back to native plants. Dude has a lot of cool knowledge but it's funny to me the format is basically explain-burn-check back later.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't know the channel, but wouldn't that result in a bunch of invasive species creeping in, too?

One of the things with natural lawns is you can't just let your yard do its thing. Lots of the plants you'll get with that are invasive. You do have to do some kind of planning and maintenance.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

He's almost certainly in America, where a lot of the ecological systems are supposed to burn every once in a while. It's also common that the invasive species can't handle it. We've messed up a lot of our ecosystems by suppressing wildfires, and it's causing multiple kinds of problems.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Down with monoculture! Down with monoculture!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I might have anger issues because any time someone tells me to touch grass I want to just violently make them eat the said touching grass.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

…touch grass, you internet tough guy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

My husband and I tried so hard to just let our lawn be what it wanted to be. All the clover, dandelions, wild strawberry, wild onion and ginger absolutely took over. In the back, it's completely fine. We get a lot of brown spots and mud during winter when it dies back, but come spring it's back to thriving. In our front yard though, enough of it died back that a heavy rain washed a lot of our yard into our driveway. We tried to manage it for a year before giving in.

So now, our front yard is an ugly but pristine monoculture grass hellscape. The back though is much larger, and still full of the awesome native plant goodness. I know nature is thriving back there because I pretty much cannot use my yard during summer due to the insane amount of bugs. There is a thriving ecosystem with all sorts of wildlife, from bunnies, squirrels and chipmunks to cardinals, robins and owls. Occasionally even a stray fox or mallard can be seen around the creek. And I live in the suburbs of a major metro area, and can hear I-35 from my house. It really is quite remarkable how natural ecosystems can thrive with just a tiny bit of encouragement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I see all this about grass not being native, but to where? It must be native somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Grass is native to lots of places, lawn that's meticulously kept clean of every other plant species? Not so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The meme doesn't say that grass isn't native, but that they want to replace it with native plants. I do get your point though, it sounds like it excludes grass. According to Wiki, Lolium perenne (hugely cultivated grass worldwide) "is native to Europe, Asia and northern Africa". I think why people explicitly say that they want to replace their lawn with native plants is because less knowledgeable people might go with introduced and widely cultivated species. This would not be as effective in bringing back wildlife. Introduced plants are often not great host plants for pollinators for example. So it is great when people specifically replace their lawn with plants that are native to their region.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Fun fact, naturally growing grass in Midwest is generally of the phalaris species, you can extract a very powerful hallucinogenic drug called DMT from it in three very simple steps. All you need is a lawnmower with a mulch bag and some pool cleaning supplies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I did some cursory research, and it looks like the leaves also contain toxic compounds, such as gramine, that can cause organ damage, including brain damage.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Unpopular opinion: I like my pure grass lawn and work hard to keep it nice with clean edges, no weeds, and comfortable barefoot walking. My flower garden I also work to keep nice in between plants. The vegetable garden is the same deal. The back of the property can grow whatever it wants. I have less than 1/4 acre and if I can have it all so can you.

You will never convince me that a lot with a house that is overgrown to shit looks nice. We can have both.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can maintain a natural yard without letting it get overgrown.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I passed through a natural lawn sub Lemmy the other day and it didn't look like that was the norm. The normal seemed to be just don't mow, which really brings a "this is an abandoned property" vibe for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Lemmy isn't representative of the general population.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

euclidean micro-zoning sounds like a terrible idea

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Jokes on you, my back yard is a non euclidean space.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Aesthetically pleasing like a blank canvas, a bare concrete wall, a block of clay, an empty manuscript: Brimming with potential to become something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Just scalp it and you have more native weeds than you want

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I hope the city has figured out by now I'm not cutting my "weeds". Gave me shit last year. The ordinance is so vague and allows the city to just go onto your property and cut everything down and bill you for the time. I fucking dare them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Most of the time these local ordinances have exceptions for raised beds, and their definition of "raised bed" is so vague you can just line your yard with decorative bricks and declare the whole thing is a raised bed.

Alternatively you can have your property designated as a wildlife preserve, even in residential neighborhoods.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

After a certain height your weeds aren't providing any extra value to pollinators and are just inviting creatures that carry disease to hold up there. That's why the city insists on cutting them. Just keep your weeds to a reasonable height, it still helps the pollinators and keeps rats from breeding incessantly. Untended to yards are shown to increase rats in the area. You don't want the plague do you? Cuz that's how you get the plague. (The last two sentences are hyperbole obviously.)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't know where you live but where I'm at you will be eaten alive unless you are literally wet with deet spray(in areas that have all native plants and grasses). I don't mind visiting but as far as my backyard, I'll pass.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Eaten alive by mosquitoes and blackflies, which do well even with grass. As someone who also live in an area like that (Ottawa) I was amazing when I moved across the river to Gatineau where they let their green spaces be wild and was amazed I was biking along the same river at the same time of year and there were very few bugs.

Naturalized ecosystems allow predators of mosquitoes and flies to thrive and control their numbers.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Saw a man watering his yard the other day omw home from work. I drive through a ridiculously bougie area on my commute and see so much weird and out of touch shit

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