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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

God damn I just bought a whole data center in Vietnam to VPN to for gaming specifically

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

because I like pho

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Governmental approval on games is an unbelievably dumb idea. Banning online game markets is not a solution; changing the laws is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Why would we allow an unregistered company to provide their service and affect registered companies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

as reported in Vietnam.net, it's possible Steam has been taken down in Vietnam after local game developers complained about the scope and size of Steam's vast portfolio of games, claiming Vietnamese devs cannot compete with Steam's releases given they are subject to government approval and thousands of international games on Steam are not.

Citing it as "an injustice to domestic publishers", Vietnamese studios reportedly say that local game development "will die" if Steam is able to keep releasing games without the same government scrutiny as domestic games.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (20 children)

Sounds like the problem here is the "government scrutiny" not steam.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense in regards to their law, but holy hell are their laws stupid

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As a vietnamese American, my mom always told me stories about the shitty government. Most citizens in Vietnam know the laws are dumb too but can't protest because the government is too strong now. Just know that EVERYTHING is regulated over there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (7 children)

You can thank America for that

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Which is based? After all, Captain Vietnam defeated Captain America.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ooof. What a stupid take.

There are indie studios whose lives have been changed because they focus on the international market.

This small brain thinking will ensure they die.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The local devs were not trying to get steam banned. Hell they wanted steam but wanted to play by the same rules and pointed out how strict their own laws and requirements were.

Vietnam govt said you're right, it's not fair and banned steam to make sure everyone plays by their rules rather than admit the rules were stupid and draconic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Careful what you wish for - you never know if it'll be granted by a Monkey's Paw

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not immediately obvious to me that indie developers in Vietnam won't be able to find an international publisher. While I don't approve of the law, it does strike me as potentially having a positive effect on Vietnamese studios.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Lemmy: "We hate capitalism! Companies aren't your friends! Down with corporrations! Down with billionaires!"

Also Lemmy: "Except Steam! We love vidyagames! Valve is friend! Gaben is bae! No, we don't understand irony."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, gabe has yet to do anything to piss me off yet. At this point I'm looking directly at the head of whatever organization.

Also this is a dumb take, if everyone had the same ideals on Lemmy then you would be part of this, you're seeing different posts by different people and conflating the two

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Valve has faced criticisms from former employees in the past for its toxic work culture. And Gabe Newell, being the CEO, has a lot of power over that.

Just because the places you frequent on the internet don't shove criticism of Valve down your throat the same way it would do so for, say, Epic Games, doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with Valve as a company. All the pro-Valve/Steam information you get and the general sentiment towards Gabe Newell from people on Lemmy and Reddit are pure, undiluted corporate propaganda. That it comes from Steam users rather than being something Steam directs and pays for doesn't change what it is.

you’re seeing different posts by different people and conflating the two

This ignores the reality that Lemmy is, at least in the part of it consisting of lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, and others, overwhelmingly leftist. This comment also attempts to dismiss the underlying criticism that Lemmy as a whole has a culture that, much like reddit, seeks to pick and choose its targets under capitalism and actively engages in corporate apologia, like in this post, while collectively professing a broad ethos that is outright hypocritical when viewed in the light of that other behavior. And if you think Lemmy is amenable to a diverse array of economic opinions, then maybe you should try posting a "Capitalism Appreciation Thread" on a major lemmy instance and see how that goes over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

If you're admitting that part of or the majority of Lemmy is leftist. (Which, who cares) Then say that. don't post Lemmy: also lemmy:, (meaning everyone) and try to backtrack after the fact.

Say what you mean. Mean what you say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, and others, overwhelmingly leftist.

That’s some of the funniest shit I’ve read today.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Everyone has accused every workplace of toxic culture. At this point I'm pretty sure going to someone and asking them to do their fucking job is toxicity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Stop making me agree with the .ml user, this shit is cringe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Everyone has accused every workplace of toxic culture. At this point I’m pretty sure going to someone and asking them to do their fucking job is toxicity.

We have reached levels of bootlicking with this comment that shouldn't be physically possible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

How many breakdowns per day do you have at work?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Point taken, but come the fuck on, there isn't any other store coming remotely close to it

No ethical consumption and all that, just enjoy your life a little

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Ah Of course. It is impossible to criticize any actions taking place by any entity against a capitalist entity without defending capitalism yourself. Cehckmate liberals.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It's hardly banned. Vietnamese people are still playing steam. It's really easy to get around and it's not a crime to use steam in the country.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

its good that they can, but what? this sounds like old people decisions, where they don't quite get it and do something like this.

games don't need that much scrutiny if you can enforce age restrictions in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This is only possible because Steam is (1) anti-libre software plus (2) service as a software substitute.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Based.

I hated steam when it started. I've grown to realize it's much better than any alternative. But I still miss the pre-steam days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I was furious that I had to download steam and install steam to play new vegas on pc at launch (as well as the box I bought from gamestop not having a the game inside but rather just a pamphlet with a cd key) I was later infuriated by New Vegas at launch and the utterly broken state of the game with each week a new but preventing progress or outright crashing game.

But now days I'm reasonable happy with (Steam) it, it's not a perfect a solution but at least tries to uphold the gamer/consumer experience, unlike shotboxes like origin or epic games which were nonstop ads and snooping through your files outside the directory.

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