Though the way the leaker describes it makes it sound more like a 3rd person MOBA than a hero shooter.
It's a Team Fortress Style Hero Shooter
Because it's a Valve game
Because TF2 Inspired Overwatch
Get it right
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I just want a nice story driven single player game from Valve again that isn't VR.
Have you played A Plague Tale (innocence, then requiem)? It's one of the best story driven games I've ever played. It's entirely linear, so plot urgency doesn't feel artificial like it does in open world games.
I liked the plot of this game, but I did not like it as a game. I have not played the second one.
Same. Something I can play, save anywhere to deal with life, and pick back up when time allows. I was one of those weirdos who really enjoyed Doom 3 when it came out (with the ducttape mod; that was one mechanic I didn't like) and grew up on old Commodore, Amiga, and PC single-player games and NES/SNES/Genisis RPGs. I want that again.
Me too but it'll never happen. The age of good single player AAA games are long long gone.
Valves next game...
SQUEEEEEE!!!!
it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
This seems reasonably different than the headline implies. It's a hero shooter, in that there are classes based on heroes (like Team Fortress 2 as well). The gameplay is more moba it sounds like. I think I've only played one other moba shooter, and it failed quickly, so that's different already.
It's not a copy of OW, and even if it were it could still innovate. Half Life might be a "Doom Clone", but it did stuff no one had done before. There's plenty of innovation potential without inventing a new genre. Even if you do create a new genre, it's probably still just evolution of existing things. No one ever has an original idea. It's always inspired by their environment.
All fair points, and given the way Valve operates (like a free collective) this would only happen if there were some really passionate people leading and working on it.
That said, it’s still a mix of things I just really do not have any interest in. Competitive online game, esports focused, MOBA-like, PvP, hero shooter… that’s a whole lot of hard no-thanks from me.
I’d love some new light-narrative single player and/or co-op stuff from them, though.
Man, I was taught "don't judge a book by it's cover" but you're burying it by it's genre, I hope you can experience new things once in a while .
I hate beets. HATE them. I will eat durian, thousand-year eggs, stinky tofu, and a million other things that most people won’t touch… but beets? Fuck beets. Their sweet-yet-earthy funk is like a dead animal that has just started to decompose. I don’t care if they are cooked, pickled, or stewed in borscht… hate them and won’t touch them. They ruin everything they touch.
This is like that. They are cooking with lots of beet-like ingredients. Some people will love that. But as for me…I hate it… I hate just everything about it… and I hate it because I’ve experienced all those ingredients before. Over and over and over again. What they are making is for a very particular crowd, and I am not part of said crowd.
1000 IQ power move: Valve promotes a fake game with fake trailers and fake reviews.
Day of the release approaches.
People buy and fire it up.
Starting screen says “Half Life 3”.
Thousands die from a stroke.
I'd like a HL3, but not yet another competitive pvp game. So not sure if that would be the right approach if they can't even hit the same target audience.
I'm inclined to agree with you, but Valve doesn't often miss
overwatch style
You mean team fortress style
They had better call it Team Fortress 2 Episode 1.
Team Fortress: Archimedes
Team Fortress Alpha: Mercenaries' Dreams
Calling things an OverWatch style shooter is a bit like calling every first person shooter a Doom clone. Just call it a hero shooter I know what a hero shooter is. You don't need to compare it to another game.
It's bad enough that the term a "roguelike" exists, I can guarantee that hardly anyone who plays them has ever actually played rogue, and fair enough since it's ancient, so they have no idea if the game they're playing is like it or not.
Isn't an overwatch style hero shooter just team fortress 2? Now get off my lawn, I have clouds to tell at.
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Sounds more like TF2 crossed with DOTA, which sounds weirdly fun and hella toxic.
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Whatever it ends up being, I'm not interested. Never cared for competitive gaming. Sad that Valve has decided to use part of their enormous talent pool for, well, this while almost any genre would've been better.
Also, this is already a highly saturated niche. I don't doubt Valve's technical prowess and knowhow to develop a game that can surpass all the other ones in quality, but a gilded turd is still a turd under that gold leaf, even if it's technically the best turd in the world.
That's unfortunate that it's not a genre you personally are interested in, but it is a popular genre and Valve is a business. Just because it's not to your tastes doesn't mean it's a waste of their talent.
I'm just curious why Valve looked at the oversaturated hero shooter market (seriously, we've had failures 8 years ago now) and said "Oh yeah, let's devote our resources there"
edit: Like, I seriously can't understand it. Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.
Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.
Overwatch 2 didn't fall because it's a hero shooter
this is where you say "It failed because...."
My assertion was that it was an imperfect hero shooter among many hero shooters. The more competition, the harder it is to enter a game.
this is where you say "It failed because...."
Gestures broadly
Not really my responsibility to make an argument for you. Of all the reasons Overwatch 2 might not have performed well, it being a Hero Shooter doesn't have any strong evidence and you didn't provide anything showing that was the reason.
One could argue Overwatch 2 being a Hero Shooter is why it didn't perform worse than it already has, given its problems.
Here you go. Reasons the hero shooter aspect is not working.
Blizzard's Approach To Balancing in Overwatch 2 is Not Working
Overwatch 2 Cancels PvE Hero Mode, Reveals Seasons 5-7 Roadmap
Overwatch 2 players demand “faster” balancing fixes as ‘one-shot’ heroes run rampant
Overwatch 2 Is Failing Its Way Into Reinventing Overwatch 1
Overwatch 2 support role feels stale and needs a shake up, say fans
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JESUS CHRIST JUST MAKE HALF LIFE 3 AND PORTAL 3 WHAT ARE YOU DOING VALVE?!?!
At this point, we have some absolutely impressive Portal 2 mods that, in my opinion, definitely make up for not having Portal 3. We've got Tag (the paint gun mod), Thinking With Portals (a short one that gives you the ability to create a clone thing that copies recorded actions), and I've been playing through one I just found out about called Revolution that is pretty cool so far.
I personally like to think that the fans have done a good enough job at creating mods and maps that a Portal 3 would be redundant.
Competitive shooter
Brooo I just wanna chill and have fun and play some games.
Then don't play competitive shooters lol? There are literally thousands of great games for you out there. Why are you even commenting on this post?
Because some of us want a game from Valve that’s not competitive? There are literally thousands of us out here. Why do you even care?
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This is why I bought Hell Divers 2
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