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Biden left without an easy solution as campus protests heat up (www.cnn.com)

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[-] [email protected] 143 points 4 months ago

Here's an easy decision... stop blocking the international community from pursuing diplomatic and economic remedies that would pressure Isreal to not commit genocide. Stop supplying military aide (potentially excepting the specialized hardware to maintain the iron dome).

Sounds like a pretty fucking easy solution...

Sounds like the Biden administration is taking a needlessly hard path just to appease AIPAC and similar foreign actors.

It's important not to fall into a purely majority rule situation, but the Jewish community in America is divided on this matter... we can't let the minority of a minority that's in favor of this genocide steer international policy.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

That would require admitting that they were wrong. Which I admit is hard, but come on, man.

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[-] [email protected] 126 points 4 months ago

They're cracking down harder on these protesters than the January 6th insurrectionists lol.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Trump was in charge on J6. The failure to crack down then, is in part due to Trump intentionally not cracking down. I would compare this to the heavy handed crackdown on the DC Black Lives Matter protesters. You know, the one where he heals a Bible upside down. That was a violent crackdown on mostly peaceful protestors.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Fair points.

Side note just in case it saves you from a gotcha in arguing with a Maga nutjob, but Trump didn't hold the Bible upside down that day, per NYT, Politifact, and other fact checkers. He's still a useless piece of shit.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

In all fairness, they don’t have the president’s encouragement.

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[-] [email protected] 118 points 4 months ago

Four colleges simply met with their protestors, came to an agreement to not invest in companies supporting the war, and publicly call for peaceful resolution.

Why is it so damn hard for all the other ones?

[-] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago

Jewish donors and money tied to Israel.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Yeah. It was a rhetorical question.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I’m a bit slow, but your rhetorical question wasn’t clear to me. I appreciated the answer, and your confirmation of what was said.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

came to an agreement to not invest in companies supporting the war

No, they came to an agreement to listen to a proposal to maybe not invest in those companies.

[-] [email protected] 111 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Isn’t it obvious, Joe?

“While I condemn Hamas, and supported Israel’s right to defend itself in the aftermath of the attacks, the use of force in reprisal has become excessive - beyond what is justified or acceptable. So effective immediately, I’m halting all arms shipments to Israel, and calling on President Netanyahu to withdraw IDF troops from Gaza and the West Bank.”

Problem solved.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

Mossad has entered the chat.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

He honestly thinks AIPAC is going to win him his election and not his pissed off voterbase lol.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Even if he’d just say “I hear you and you’re right, but sometimes I have to make bad choices for the country that are better for the long term” would be something.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The problem with something like that is Biden has no way to speak to the people without Israel also hearing.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Well... He also has very few friends in Israel. Bibi prefers Trump (who recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which was a Bad Thing), and the way he's forcing Biden to eat shit right now seems like a pretty easy way to put his thumb on the scale.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Alright this one is just for the people. Anyone in the government needs to close their eyes and stick their fingers in their ears and say 'lalala' for the next half hour."

EZ 😎

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[-] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago

Stop aiding Israel’s genocide doesn’t seem too difficult, but I’m not a Zionist.

[-] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago

Supporting genocide or not supporting genocide. Gee, what a tough choice.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

sigh

Study a little US history and you’ll find we’ve struggled with that question pretty much since the nation’s founding.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's not been much of a struggle. We've almost always been solidly in favor

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Before Pearl Harbor, the US was totally fine with what the Nazis were doing in Europe, even going as far as to disparage Jewish people and refuse to allow them to come from Europe to the US for asylum. Seems things never change and our leaders consistently have no problem being on the wrong side of history.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Probably wouldn't have had an issue or done anything in Europe if nazis didn't declare war on us

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago

Stop supplying the weapons for Genocide?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

[Biden] largely sidestepped protesters’ demands, which have included ending U.S. support for Israeli military operations. Asked after his remarks whether the demonstrations would prompt him to consider changing course, Biden responded with a simple “no.”

https://apnews.com/article/biden-silence-college-protests-police-gaza-israel-d5f3092671951c3bc2968b8751c93ba6

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Biden on this topic.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

He’s got a super easy solution:

“Sorry Israel, but you fucked up royally! We’re suspending all aid; recognizing the state of Palestine as an independent nation, and will begin the process of rebuilding Gaza and reappropriating all of your illegal settlements on their land.”

Simple!

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

Man facing pressure from swarm of angry hornets can see no possible way to soothe the increasingly enraged colony as he continues to hit nest with stick

[-] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

US politicians are bought by the israeli lobby. We need to crack down on corruption in the most extreme way.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Wow CNN. Tone deaf much?

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