How is this even constitutional. Does the 4th amendment even exist?
this post was submitted on 22 Apr 2024
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Everyone hates Rand Paul but he voted no on this, as did others on the left and the right. Fuck fascism and fuck left authoritarianism.
And yet I still hate Rand Paul.
Hitler loved dogs.
Rand Paul votes no on anything that allows the government to do anything. I doubt he even reads the bills.
I doubt he even reads the bills.
To be fair it's probably the same for Biden.
Goddamn. What in the fuck is this timeline even. Now we need a THIRD secured device to secure comms between a remote server to stop MITM shit for fucks sake. Time to go deeper I guess.
Surveillance is bad, but in other parts of the world people die in wars and get killed with families for their ethnicity and\or religion, with punishing the perpetrators not even being attempted.
I'd say these tendencies in the (power-wise) center of the world are the reason for more violence on the rim, though.
So in my opinion this is generally one and the same battle.
This abstraction sucks. Every abstraction justifying shitty behavior should be scrutinized out of existence.
Such an idiotic comment really.
I'm saying this whole phenomenon hits you and your part of the world less than any other.
I said that in a more subtle way, because I never expect people who fail at reading to blame that on me.
In a very confusing way you are saying surveillance is justified because in other parts of the world people are not protected by their country's justice system. So it's better to be overly surveiled than nothing at all.
Which I fundamentally disagree with and am equally upset about either circumstance.
Especially when the people doing the surveillance operate outside the confinement of the justice system. See BLM.
So it seems that there are indeed issues where "both sides" agree.
The worst legislation that gets passed is typically the bill every Congressman agrees on. If you didn't have to fight through six committees and an extended filibuster, you can assume it must have been a Christmas Tree of kickbacks and crimes.
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said he voted against the reauthorization "because it failed to include the most important requirement to protect Americans' civil rights: that law enforcement get a warrant before targeting a US citizen."
Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point
because it failed to include the most important requirement to protect Americans' civil rights: that law enforcement get a warrant before targeting a US citizen
So, he wants the government to dig dirt on US residents, but only if they're immigrants or temporary workers.
Yeah, the Constitution protects anyone on American soil, not just citizens.
Not since the patriot act.
Talk to the interned Japanese or the community organizers in the Cobbs Creek neighborhood bombed by the Philly PD. It wasn't just starting with the Patriot Act.
The US has a long and storied tradition of claiming "These people don't count" when enumerating civil rights.
It's very funny that the workable compromise between "this is important for national security" and "this infringes on basic liberty" is "maybe we just do it for 2 years and see how we feel after that."
It's always permanent. The short time period is just for the sake of getting it voted in.
You think the government would ever get rid of powers like these? Of course not!
Joe Biden, while loading a very large gun: "It would be terrible if Donald Trump ever got his hands on this."
Donald Trump, having loaded that same gun 4 years ago: "We have to retake the White House from this far-left communist maniac, because he's going to use that very large gun against White People!"
What a fucking racket.
People think about Red vs. Blue, but the world is ruled by Purple.
There's an exception to the rule that prohibits spying on religious groups.
Who wants to start an anti-surveillance religion?
I don't think that'll save you.
https://peoplesworld.org/article/hearings-lawsuit-slam-bush-spying-defense/
NBC News obtained a secret 400-page Pentagon document that listed the Truth Project as a “credible threat” to national security. The Pentagon sent an agent to spy on the group’s first meeting at the Quaker Meeting House in Lake Worth in 2004, one of almost four dozen similar meetings nationwide infiltrated on Bush-Cheney orders.
The report revealed that the Defense Department spy operation kept tabs on 1,500 “suspicious incidents” such as distribution of antiwar leaflets at high schools, peace vigils and town hall meetings.
Eight people are active in the Truth Project, Hersh said, including Quakers, a 79-year-old grandmother and Hersh himself, partially disabled by a nerve disease that often confines him to a wheelchair.
Hersh added with a chuckle, “Yes, I guess we are a ‘credible threat.’ The truth is always a threat to those who are lying. We are always a threat to illegitimate and unjust powers.”
Can't wait for people to tell me how this is actually a great thing and we need to cheer for this...
Well...Trump didn't sign it...It must be good right?