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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I sure do love being forced to vote for a capitalist christian in every goddamn election.

Sure makes me feel like I fucking belong here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

being forced to vote for a capitalist christian in every goddamn election.

Have you ever been involved in the candidate selection process?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh so I just need to be a lackey for the dems for thirty years and then I can con my way into a being a superdelegate and have some say in who I elect.

And then when I pick the atheist anarchist I get told they're unelectable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Better and worse are options.

Not everything is a binary "best or worst" choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Our options are "less worse" and "more worse." We don't get to vote for better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This really isn't anything different than any other president has said in living memory. If anything, it's not as extreme as some of them.

For example-

No, I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic. This is one nation under God.

That was George H. W. Bush.

That said, I will give his piece of shit son credit for one thing. He said this:

I will be your president regardless of your faith. And I don't expect you to agree with me, necessarily, on religion. As a matter of fact, no president should ever try to impose religion on our society. The great – the great tradition of America is one where people can worship the – the way they want to worship. And if they choose not to worship, they're just as patriotic as your neighbor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists#United_States

I can't remember any other time when a Republican at pretty much any level, let alone a president, would say that about atheists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

He said that because of what his dad said... Its pr

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Why is it always that the US does something bad or beyond logic, it always goes back to "what about that time when x said/did something worse" as if it's any fucking better?

  • Remember that time when obama bombed a wedding?
  • Remember when bush made up lies about invading iraq and got out scot-free?
  • Remember that time when we invaded countries for no reason other than pushing our agenda?
  • Remember when we funded terrorists that are now terrorizing the locals?
  • Remember when we changed regimes to religious fundamentalists that turned into theocracy?
  • Remember when we supported coups in democratic countries?

He can say any fucking prepared statement, he's a piece of shit zionist currently perpetuating a genocide. People trying to present him in positive light comparingto the scum of the nation are maggots that plague the earth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Crazy times when the bar fell so low that Bush isn't even considered to be one of the worst US presidents anymore. US hardliners have all gone so crazy that people like him, by comparison, appear to be moderate now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Trump was the greatest thing to ever happen to GW's legacy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Remember the "miss me now?" signs with Bush on them after Obama was elected?

I hate to say it, but... compared to the alternative Republicans have on offer these days, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Jesus, that was such a weird time that folks wanted Bush back despite the super recession he caused. Obama really rocked the right hard so they said to themselves "never be mocked by libruls again" and are trying to take down democracy. And folks were calling out the fascist direction back with Bush/Cheney too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean he's not wrong.

If you look at the founding documents, there is ZERO mention of Jesus or Christianity and only one mention of "God" and that's in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

Nature's God, which had and has a very specific meaning.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

Good book on the topic:

https://mwstewart.com/books/natures-god/

This is why, in the Treaty of Tripoli, the first international document to recognize the US as an independent nation, it reads:

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen, and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” 

Musselmen = Muslims
Mehomitan = Islamic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Didn't the first pilgrims who came to what is now the USA do it because they wanted to practice their specific flavor of Christianity and England was like "nah bro, that's crazy"? Or did my teachers in school lie to me? I know the country itself wasn't founded on religion.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

In the same breath, Biden asserts that every person is created in the “image of God,” implying a place for faith in interpreting America’s founding principles.

coming from a Catholic that was in office when Roe v. Wade was overturned

feels more like United States of Christ than ever