this post was submitted on 09 Apr 2024
65 points (100.0% liked)

covid

683 readers
3 users here now

Try to include sources for posts No Covid misinformation, including anti-vaxx, anti-mask, anti-lockdown takes.

COVID MINIMIZATION = BAN

This community is a safe space for COVID-related discussion. People who minimize/deny COVID, are anti-mask, etc... will be banned.

Off-topic posts will be removed

Jessica Wildfire's COVID bookmark list

Covid.Tips

COVID-safe dentists: (thanks sovietknuckles)

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Research published today in Lancet Infectious Disease and supported by PolyBio Research Foundation provides the strongest evidence yet that the COVID virus can persist for months or years after infection. The findings, published by a UC San Francisco/Harvard Medical School team, found that proteins created by the virus were still present for up to 14 months in a quarter of people tested. This demonstrates SARS-CoV-2 viral persistence as an urgent area of research underlying a breadth of chronic disease after COVID.

“The fact that every new SARS-CoV-2 infection has the potential to become chronic is perhaps the single most concerning aspect of this virus” says Dr. Amy Proal, President of PolyBio. “We have compelling data that viral persistence is much more common than recognized which could have major health implications.”

wtf

However, with an estimated 18 million adults and 5.8 million children suffering from Long COVID, government investment is also needed. SARS-CoV-2 has even been found in the lymph nodes of children months after COVID, suggesting persistent infection can begin early in life.

long suspected and showed up in research before, but here's more proof this is a thing.

Nearly all people in the study were not vaccinated, and generally the sicker they were the more likely they had viral persistance.

top 16 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I truly cannot stress enough that we need a covid truth and reconciliation commission.

Biden and Trump, every single US senator, most house members, every governor (are there any exceptions? I wouldn’t rule it out but I don’t know who), a large number of mayors, and a good number of other powerful people like hospital and university presidents, plus the relevant people in countries that aren’t the US, need to be tried and punished for society to move forward. They have pushed Nazi Germany levels of death on people.

We also need to actually do something about covid. Mandatory vaccinations, testing, increased ventilation, mask mandates and, yes, a return to lockdowns where necessary. All of the things we’ve known work since December 2019. And when I say lockdowns, at this point I mean what freakish American chuds claimed China did. Oh you don’t want to stay home when you’re sick? We’re giving you a bag of rice and welding your door closed. Fuck what I would give to have anyone in power willing to actually do something about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

They have pushed Nazi Germany levels of death on people.

You really don't have to take a comparison like that. It would also not be true directly (at least 17 million dead due to explicit Nazi action outside of soldiers).

The killing (which is what capitalist states through their inaction and upkeep of private economies did) of people during the Covid pandemic stand on its own.

You don't have to relate to the Congo "Free State" either, even though a similar number of people might've died there on the hands of Belgian colonialist hell.

I do agree with the attack on states and their ineffective measures though and would support truth commissions.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You underestimate just how many people these regimes killed with covid. The lowest possible number is a bit over 18 million. The most likely number is somewhere closer to 30 million.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As of july, The Economist was putting excess morbidity at 24 million deaths. Despite what was commented in the post's body, The Economist was updating the numbers in the article without updating the article's date. They might still be doing it, but it's behind a paywall now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I didn’t make that comparison lightly, I made it because the number of deaths is similar. The lower bound on covid death estimates is over 18 million, the likely number is closer to 30 million.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I'm right there with ya. rat-salute

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I guarantee you more than 17 million have been killed or maimed by covid so far when we already hit over a million deaths in America like, what, two years ago? Unless other countries' deaths don't count to you

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I just want to highlight that this was published in The Lancet. Only because I've personally never heard of Polybio.

Reactionaries and libs will take the most garbage YouTuber opinions on COVID, yet ignore the abundance of incredibly strong peer reviewed shit saying that covid is still dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Liberals believe they have the right to speak on subjects they know nothing about.

You know the thing about the blind men and the elephant? The liberal is perfectly sighted but stands with their back facing the elephant, denies that there are such things as "elephants" and suggests that it must be a unicorn.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm familiar with PolyBio because I have long covid and I follow organizations that are doing studies and looking for treatments. My impression thus far has been that they're doing pretty promising research (unlike the government's RECOVER trials, which have been inadequate and disappointing). Viral persistence as a root cause of long covid is something they're investigating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

I just demanded $100 monthly rent per COVID virus in my body and they all voluntarily moved out

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I remember seeing people here talk ages back about it persisting in your gut somehow? And that fasting and clearing out the gut might help properly get rid of it? Anybody know what the fuck I'm talking about or was that just some random internet weirdos back when we didn't know anything?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I believe you're thinking of this post about using probiotics to help with long covid symptoms

Covid persists in many places besides just the gut though. I believe an impotence study even found it hiding it in the genitals.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, it's everywhere. Afaik crosses the blood-brain barrier too.

Anecdotally kefir seems to be helping me a lot with the nausea and even joint pain, but it seems to be pretty individual how people react to probiotics too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I'm just gonna get so infected with covid that my bloated, grotesque frame serves as a shrine to grandfather nurgle, whose wretched unholiness will turn my pestilent pain into ecstatic pleasure