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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If Linux was dominant it wouldn’t be Linux. There would be more pressure to monetize and there would always be someone willing to sell out for that money. You can see this even in the Linux community today. I’m sorry I had to be so negative about it though, it sounds nice.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe it should say, “If the world went open source, and capitalism went away.”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even fantasy should have some limits folks c'mon now

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Which is more fantastical? Unlimited profits and line going up forever in a finite world? Or capitalism actually ending so all lives can live free from subjugation?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If windows didn't exist, linux would dominate with the problems you describe, and we'd still see this meme, but advocating for FreeBSD instead.

That being said, I like them both. It's been a while since I last used bsd, so I think it's about time I give it another spin.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm unsure. I switch between MacOS and Linux regularly.

I'd reckon Apple's OS would dominate the "user friendly" space(not saying Linux is bad, just what everyone memes).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Linux is already dominant on just about everything except the desktop, and it has yet to suffer significant enshittification.

Edit: Well, a bunch of Linux distributions have suffered enshittification, if that counts.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If Linux was dominant it wouldn’t be Linux. There would be more pressure to monetize and there would always be someone willing to sell out for that money. You can see this even in the Linux community today. I’m sorry I had to be so negative about it though, it sounds nice.

This is a very Desktop/workstation-centric view of the situation and you're completely neglecting 3/4ths of the story. Linux is already hilariously dominant on the on-prem server and Cloud side of things. Like, it's not even close. Pretty much any website you visit, the odds are overwhelming that it's running Linux. Even Microsoft runs most of the underlying infrastructure for Azure and Github on Linux. Android is the #1 mobile phone platform in the world, which runs on, you guessed it, Linux.

And it's already monetized to the gills. Red Hat has multi-billion earnings per quarter, every quarter, and Canonical is almost certainly going to IPO this year.

It's already dominant in pretty much every space it touches and it has been for a very long time. Desktop/workstation is pretty much the singular exception to that.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t see anyone outside so it checks out.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are all learning how to use the terminal.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are inside trying to compile the software thst opens the automatic doors.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They will die there, because they need a slightly older version of some minor library for compatibility, and nobody cared enough to continue hosting it.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not really. Having heterogeneity among operating systems is better than pure homogeneity. Say, if everyone ran Linux, and some massive security flaw was discovered, we would all be screwed at the same time. However, if we ran different stuff, and some massive security hole was found for just one operating system, then only a small portion of the world is vulnerable at once. Besides, more operating systems can lead to more innovation, as long as there is good competition between them.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is capitalism, not which kernel everything runs. And the reason FOSS isn't universal is also capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's more complicated to make money producing FOSS, capitalism or not. Lots of reasonable developers would still choose closed source even without capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Making money is a capitalist adjacent idea. The premise that we need money to figure out how to allocate resources is foolish

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm still waiting for someone to propose in detail an alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Aren’t the majority of computers already on Linux? Unless you mean desktops

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you missed the homeless encampments, forest fires and car centric cities.

There's no apt install utopia.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Because you have forgotten sudo

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they miss the statue of Linus Torvalds

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would expect the architecture to be a bit more on the brutalist side of things

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, because everyone would be sitting around jacking each other off about using linux, if current trends are to be believed.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No place for bazaar. Looks more like corporations wet dream.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

So you mean we would have weird useless concrete structures everywhere? I doubt it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Linux kernel

Nah bro, chrome OS is fucking ridiculous not to mention android too.

We need the other linux not just kernel.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Until the moment someone finds a privilage escalation bug.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It does run on Linux 😁😁😁

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that image supposed to represent an utopia?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its urban hell, but a few more trees

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, firewalls should use openBSD

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why?
I've tried to Google this, but it's such a general statement I can't find anything about it.
Is it more mature in that regard? Sane/sensible/safe defaults for networking? More tools as part of the distribution for networking?
Did FreeBSD (or it's predecessor/upstream/whatever) define the standards, so the implementation is more correct?

Or is it just that so many firewall applications run on top of FreeBSD (or a BSD flavour) eg opnSense, pfSense, openWRT (is openWRT actually BSD, idk)?
So, kinda a historical/momentum thing. With the benefits of wide spread specific use

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I personally don't have a lot of experience with this, but here's a writeup about OpenBSD: https://nxdomain.no/~peter/what_every_it_person_needs_to_know_about_openbsd.html

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

All monocultures suck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If everyone used Linux I would use BSD

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Nah, industrial and infrastructure should mostly use BSD. And "Never see a command line" consumer OS's should generally be forks from Linux or other FOSS. Most Linux distros have come a long way and are ready for gaming prime time, but fail the "80 year old grandma who wants to digitise her record collection but is a bit unclear on double-clicking" test.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

> every building by zaha hadid

> still not a walkable City

I would not agree

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Probably done in jest, but this reads like the 100,000,000th “agree?” bullshit post on LinkedIn.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No, because that would make me stupid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

“But if we put all the world’s shares into Linux, the other Kernel Patron Units would be incapacitated!”

… I doubt anyone will get this reference.

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