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Form over function, eh?
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And it's also red. I hate red turning indicators, they should be amber.
They are required to be in other countries. At some point we decided red was ok and there's so many problems with that!
These are aftermarket taillights.
I'm pretty sure the UK ones are animated as well in the direction of travel which makes it even clearer.
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yeah, I had to get used with the lack of regulations here and there when I moved to the US
land of the free corporations
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I think, if you put them together, it's supposed to be a Union Jack?
Hence the form in "form over function"
Yes, Mini uses that pattern a lot.
Yup. That's right.
I don't get it... What's wrong with it?
The turn signal to turn left looks like an arrow pointing to the right.
The bigger issue is that the US still alows Blinkers to be the same color as break lights. Just weird to me.
Actually, Us law/regulations require them to be amber or yellow.
But like with super-bright headlamps; manufacturers decided to ignore it because USDoT is pretty useless in that regard.
That's not correct. FMVSS 108, Table I-a, specifically allows rear turn signals to be amber or red. Front turn signals must be amber only.
I guess... It's still a big blinking light on either side of the car I hardly think it's going to confuse anyone
Have you seen the idiots out on the road these days?
However, as far as turn signals go, this is one of the less egregious designs. Car manufacturers are given too much leeway in what is allowed for such systems, like putting them between headlights or making them use the same circuits as the brake lights instead of a dedicated light.
Yeah, I could see it being an issue for some less-common type of indicator, but everyone who drives knows what a blinker looks like. Nobody would mistake it for anything other than the right hand turn signal.
Hell, I wouldn't even notice the shape of the light; all you need to notice while driving is the presence of a flashing light on the right side of the vehicle - if you're looking intently enough to notice the shape of the light, you're not paying enough attention to everything else on the road.
In the dark, with the other side obscured (or just broken), you don’t want the blinker to actively prompt you to come to a wrong conclusion.
It’s better to see a blinking light and think “I don’t see enough, gotta slow down” than see a blinking arrow and potentially not even realize it’s a turn signal.
If you're driving in the dark with someone whose entire taillight system is out to the point where you can't immediately tell if his blinker is on the left or the right, you need to hit the brakes and put as much distance between you and them as you can... Then get better headlights, because even in that situation you should still be able to see them pretty well just with your own lights.
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Multiple wrong. The brake light double as a turn signal, the signal colour itself being red, and the arrow pointing at different direction.
In a saner world, signal and brake light will always be separated and must be the colour of amber.
But that's just a US issue, right? Most other countries already require amber signal lights.
North America, actually
So you mean Canada has the same issue?
Yeah, possibly also Mexico but I can't quite recall
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Yes. I'm only learning this is unusual right now.
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I'm turning
-> <-
that way
It's the right turning light... In the shape of an arrow pointing left
How do we know this isn't just someone on the brake where one bulb has blown?
Means how the top center brake light is also lit up, I think you're right.
I think you two are too European to understand this.
The US and Canada allows blinking a brake light to act as a turn signal. It's absolutely stupid, I know.
Although it's dumb, it doesn't rule out the theory. But yes America is... Something
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It's a video in case you are just looking at the still picture.
Is it not valid to hang the Union Jack vertically, like a pennant? Mini could have just designed each light to be a complete flag, made the same reference, and not have everyone point and laugh at them.
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Why would you ever click a link from hackers.town tho
My thinking:
Hackers != crackers
I don't want to go to crackers.town either... That's a bad vibe
Sounds alright to me... Might have to go to https://cheese.town afterwards, though.
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Leave it to brits to install right indicator on the left side
Don't blame us, Mini has been owned by BMW for decades.
Good thing we stopped them in WW2. That flag in the indicator would have been even more confusing.
I just like to tell the Americans that this is your fault. You have lacks traffic laws that allow this kind of thing. This isn't be legal in the UK.
This has ALWAYS irritated me, THANK YOU!
Oh god, which way is it actually turning?
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