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Yellen, who is planning her second trip to China as Treasury secretary, said Wednesday in Georgia that she will convey her belief to her Chinese counterparts that Beijing’s increased production of green energy also poses risks “to productivity and growth in the Chinese economy.”

U.S. Trade Representative Katherine Tai said in response to the complaint that the U.S. subsidies are a “contribution to a clean energy future” while China “continues to use unfair, non-market policies and practices to undermine fair competition.”

This almost reads like an article from The Onion

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago

wont somebody think of the prices!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Janet Yellen needs to fuck off

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A member of the Biden administration taking an extremely right wing stance?! What?! I am so shocked.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's almost as if democrats are mid right or something!

Much wow! 😂

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Ya, all those left constituents can sit and spin!

Consistently voting for the "lesser evil" is really working out!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Invisible Hand at work

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"No, not like that!"

porky-scared-flipped

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Give me heavily subsidized US made electric vehicles or STFU.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Outside of the US, you can get a 10k or less electric mini-van, mini-truck, or mini-car which would serve 90% of most peoples' needs. Most US trips are under 3 miles after all and giant fast luxurious vehicles for those bike-range trips is just totally silly.

Meanwhile the cheapest new car in the US is what, a Mitsubishi hatchback for $18k? It's ridiculous. The US Automakers are in a tacit conspiracy to squeeze us as hard as they can by refusing to sell anything affordable -- by inflating sizes and bloating features to justify way higher MSRPs. Meanwhile the French have access to cheap ICEs like the Skoda Citygo and even ultralight city EVs like the Citroen Ami for half that price while still being easily 90% as capable for most people.

Or for roughly the same price as that bottom-of-the-market US ICE car you can get a totally workable EV like the Dacia Spring.

The US subsidizes huge vehicles in a million pointless ways. I absolutely refuse to believe that vehicle inflation is just caused by some cultural woo. It's mostly just that we create giant roads, giant parking spots, giant highways, and have automakers that intentionally go as big as the market can bear because bigger means more money. And sprinkle on some bullshit tax loopholes and state agencies/NHSTA being ultra-conservative and you have a disaster. Smaller cars thrive in the old world because the old world doesn't make it as convenient as possible to have a goddamn road yacht. They'd go big too, but it would just be a nightmare dealing with those huge cars because their governments don't prioritize making way for them in every way possible.

And that's not even getting into the frankly fine $2-3k EVs you can get in China. This is all just Europe.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If most US trips are under 3 miles why do we have cars at all? It's extremely wasteful to use cars for that kind of transportation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Subsidized fossil fuels you say? Well ok, coming right up.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

You damn commie! Traitor!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

But that would literally be communism!!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The unimaginable horror of cheap energy could collapse the global oil trade. Which country produces the most oil, again?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

USA USA USA

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Burger land with screaming eagles.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Caaaaw caaaaw

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

the most progressive administration in the history of the united states everybody...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

What's fucked up is that might still be true and that just speaks volumes about how absurd we are. :(

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

"Oh no, real competiton, in green energy no less!"

Bitch, are you for real?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wowwwww.....

Us to underdeveloped countries: sorry bro can't use coal anymore, the planet and all ya know. Sucks to suck friendo.

Us to developing countries starting off on a better foot than us: nooooooo not like that! What about the shareholders!?!?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Yes and the U.S. was also literally like "why should we stop burning coal, the underdeveloped countries (esp China) will still be burning coal decades after we stop, it's not going to make a difference if we stop".

Turns out the real driving force was actually bribery ("lobbying") all along.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oil companies: AHA! I was greenwashing the entire time! DRILL BABY DRILL

China: Don't care, we're rolling out renewables that will compete you out of the market

Oil companies: [frustrated crying face] noo you cant do that what about our profits?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This would be really hilarious if China developed the renewables to the point they would really be outright cheaper than fossils.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Another proof for how pervasive monopoly capitalism is, and how Lenin was absolutely correct about imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Even more funny that the oil companies could have transitioned into renewable and become the kings of that field, but they care more about maintaining fossil fascism than do the money so they just did greenwashing instead. Now they're going to get left completely in the dust.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Man I wish this were the onion.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And determine our trade policy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And if you get in their way, they'll kill you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

And if you get in their way, they’ll suicide you

fixed it for you

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

When you don't like the way the market capitalisms

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

BuT aT wHaT cOsT¿????¿???¿??¿?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

BuT aT wHaT cOsT??!?!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

unfair trade barriers

Did they forget what globalization means? Globalization means that other countries open their economy completely to U.S. companies while the U.S. grants import quotas (at best) for other countries (as long as they behave nice).

And what does this actually mean:

“I will press my Chinese counterparts to take necessary steps to address this issue.”

"Let me win again Mom said it's my turn to win again."