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[–] [email protected] 93 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hate when people use mental illness as a metaphor to explain why people disagree with them, it sucks for so many reasons

[–] [email protected] 75 points 7 months ago

"You would unconditionally obey and absorb my every opinion if not for that little whoopsy doodle with your brainpan being all wrong."

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 7 months ago (3 children)

the more I don't want to understand something the more complicated it must be.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Why do liberals need to believe their dumbshit baby politics are complicated? "It's complex it's nuanced" it almost never is, it's just transparent corruption or warmongering.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because they are stupid fucking marks who are maybe even more anti-intellectual than chuds. Every liberal I meet like this is identical. If you don't agree with them, it's because you're stupid.

Democrats can't do the good thing or stop the bad thing because it's 'complex'. They won't do any independent research on why it's complex, but you should just trust them that it is.

I am so sick of this archetype of person.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I got told by my mom during an argument about Israel-Palestine that my solution (israel stops existing and israelis become equal citizens in Palestine) was utopian, shortly before she proposed nuking Israel because "they keep fighting no matter what, so this is the only way"

[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, liberals love to tell you that things that were very common before a few hundred years ago are 'utopian'.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Even things from living memory! "How will we solve the housing crises?!!" like seizing all the land and building more houses isn't staggeringly obvious.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Anyone who proposed the solution of nuclear warfare should seek therapy. I know your mom will never have access to nukes but it says a lot about someone's character when instead of solving a problem, they'd rather murder millions of innocent people.

I don't mean to sound attacky. My own mom would say the same fucking thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know your mom will never have access to Nikes

You didn't have to diss his moms style like that

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

The old Goddess of Victory - Shoe - Nuclear Missile triad

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Every couple of months I get to hear, completely unprompted, how many hundreds of millions of Chinese people we could kill if we somehow interdicted the straights of Malacca. There's something deeply, horrifyingly wrong with Americans.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Guess that's just the natural evolution of "We should glass the Middle East"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I used to think that when I was, idk, 15? 9/11 had just happened and I was about as wise as a not particularly wise rock. It's so weird to look back on, especially now having watched the destruction of Iraq, Libya, and countless other nations while having more experience and perspective.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Being on the opposite side of the country may have helped but I remember my teacher asking us how we felt about getting terrorismed and I couldn't fathom why I should care about a bunch of stock brokers getting got any more than a recent tsunami that had hit China and killed several thousand people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I was also about as far from NYC as you can get so I really didn't have much context for it. The day of was so weird. I woke up hours after it happened, jumped on IIRC having no idea, and some random Russian person messaged me to say "Sorry about what happened, good luck surviving WWIII". It was hours or maybe a day or two before I figured out what had actually happened. Some people thought China had attacked us (from where? The Atlantic? We were so ignorant). It was eerie, there was always a huge amount of air traffic in my city, big planes and small bush planes, and the skies were empty for days. The only thing up there was air force fighters on patrol. We had an air base, so I was used to seeing them, but not like that.

After that, I got caught up in the propaganda for a year or two, then started to get suspicious, then got dragged out to pride by my hippy girlfriend to put on a prison jumpsuit and a hood and walk in the parade with my hands chained over my head, protesting Gitmo. It was one of my first real political actions, and also the first of many times I got booed for "ruining" pride with politics. hexbear-gay-pride

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago

it's just transparent corruption or warmongering

That's exactly why they need to believe it's complicated. If they recognized that it's not, they'd be acknowledging their own complicity.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

yes it's transparent corruption and warmongering, but it also maintains a system that provides me with cheap consumer electronics and year-round fresh tropical fruits, coffee, and chocolate, so it's fucking complicated goddammit!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Because they need to be the smartest babyboys in the room, and if everyone has a simple solution, then you can feel really smart if you can point out how it's not at all that simple actually. It's literally all their policy.
"Israel-Palestine is complicated." No it isn't, stop funding colonial settlers doing genocide.
"Homelessness is complicated" no it isn't, give them homes.
"Starvation is complicated" No it isn't, we produce more food than we need and throw most of it out before it even reaches a store. Give it away.
"Healthcare is complicated" no it isn't, make it universal like everywhere else
"Education is complicated" no it isn't, make it free
"War is complicated" no it isn't, stop doing it
"Water scarcity is complicated" no it isn't, stop having golf courses and stop growing pistacchios in a desert
"Public transport is complicated" no it isn't, you're just wasting all the money on financing the private automobile industry
"The massive prisoner population and wrongful incarcerations and shitty courts is complicated" no it isn't, you've privatized prison and you're using slave patrols to uphold the law. Don't do that.

Libs like to pretend like this shit is complicated so they can feel cleverer than the people that say the things are simple. Now if these things actually ARE simple, then the libs would turn out to be fucking idiots.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

"Starvation is complicated" No it isn't, we produce more food than we need and throw most of it out before it even reaches a store. Give it away.

It's worse than that. The US massively subsidizes a lot of staples. They're dumped on foreign markets at below market prices. Local food producers can't sell their product and eventually fold, shutting down their farms. Or they switch to cash crops. Then, when the US decides to send it's grain somewhere else, or the market for hte cash crop collapses, there's either no money to buy food or no food at all and people starve.

A lot of 20th and 21st century famines were caused this way, with western powers, the IMF, the world bank, destroying local food security, forcing cash crops on people, instituting expensive input intensive farming practices unsuited for hte land, then wringing their hands and holding Live Aid concerts when a famine ensued.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Also just makes them sound like an incredulous moron to everybody who perfectly understands the problem because they aren't desperately refusing to understand it.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Noooo you gotta use nuance! Things aren't always black and white in the real world!"

-Liberals who think exploring topics begins and ends with CNN

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Noooo you gotta use nuance! Things aren't always black and white in the real world!"

Also them:

  • Russia Bad
  • Putin Bad
  • China Bad
  • Xi Bad
  • DPRK Bad
  • Kim Jong Un Bad
  • etcetera, etcetera
[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago
  • Israeli genocide, um, well, actually, uhhhh—

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago

If it's too complicated, you just need to leave it to the experts. And we all know that the folks who make the most money know the most about things, so...

[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago

execute all podjohns

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Ok let's take a look at it from the view of the pandemic.

Do we go with the guy who did almost everything he could to make the pandemic worse, or the guy who lied about giving people covid relief money then declared it over and forced everybody back into the office.

The reason for disenfranchisement is that you can pick any topic and both candidates suck dogshit on that topic.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nobody cares that Trump tried to overthrow the government. He had no chance of succeeding in the first place, and in the second I wish he would have, because it would’ve lasted all of about two seconds and at least we would’ve been in one of those weeks where decades happen. Also silly pretending that trying to overthrow the US govt is necessarily a bad thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No one even remembers or thinks about it other than the most harebrained liberals. January 6th happened 4 years ago. The American political imagination barely stretches to the past 2 weeks and liberals expect people to still feel indignation for something that didn't impact them, didn't do anything, and happened so long ago it might as well have been fictional

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

facts machine is spitting today

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

"We captured the capital building, wahooo! That means we control things here at the heart of U.S. powe-" they are swiss cheesed through every window and wall by snipers and grenade launchers and heavy machine guns from planes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

I actually used to think this was the Iron Man guy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

link or lib