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[–] [email protected] 108 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

For anyone who thinks this would be a good tradeoff, this would be the worst sleep of your life.

I've only had sleep paralysis a couple times and it was always because I was stressed about homework/work and my brain kept trying to work through the problems in my sleep. It is a terrible experience. Sleep is about way more than physical rest. Depriving your brain of good sleep will ruin your memory and make functioning during the day exceedingly difficult.

Plus, let's look at what employers did in response to women entering the workforce. Has average household income doubled? No, pay has stagnated to the point of households needing two incomes to meet expenses. Don't expect working through your sleep to mean a life of leisure in the day. You're more likely to see wages fall to the point where everyone needs a day job plus a sleep job.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Lucid dreaming is just becoming aware that you are dreaming. Doesn't affect sleep quality at all. Now forcing a lucid dream seems like it might make you sleep worse, but I'm sceptical it even works tbh

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone's saying that the lucid dreaming alone is bad.

It's exploiting the lucid dream state to force people to work when they should be resting.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Dreams are important for your brain to do it's brain shit. Integrate memories, work out subconscious things, deal with the what-the-fiyling-fuckishness of being an ape that has an over-developed cognitive realm. Lack of REM makes your mind angry, and can literally kill you. How do you think hijacking such an important process which has evolved over millennia to do menial office work will go? Let's ask taste receptors and high-fructose corn syrup...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So the thing is

Dreams are supposed to be the mind sorting and copying loosely connected memories for long term storage (because cells don't have a long shelf life) and therefor utilizing the brain during sleep will in theory cause a person to not perform that regular maintenance and eventually sustain permanent brain damage or loss of memory.

You are not supposed to be aware of dreaming. Dream perception is a side effect of maintenance.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Lucid dreaming isn't the same as sleep paralysis though. I've had several lucid dreams and it's great sleep - it has to be because it mostly happens during the deepest part of sleeping.

Would I want to work during a lucid dream though - hell no.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I saw the Nick Cage movie Dream Scenario and I'm going to say "fuck no get out of my head" right off the bat.

Between this bullshit and Musk's brain chips the future is looking pretty bleak.

Also I suggest people check out Made for Love. It's a show about what happens when a billionaire eccentric weirdo creates a brain chip...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I just watched this yesterday. a weird one, no surprise from Nick.

Spoilers

Was he manipulating the connective consciousness with his desire for attention then anger at rejection? Or was it just random sci Fi with his character at the center?

Edit If the former, I choose to view it as an alternate timeline origin story for Freddy Kruger even though that character was mentioned in the movie

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Humanity loves torturing humanity.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Those who seek power will never be sated, because absolute power is entirely beyond the means of men, yet they find lacking power which they believe they so rightfully deserve to be deeply offensive.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Last night I had a dream that my cat had his own pet cat and that both of them were dancing a waltz on the corner of my bed.

In my dream I was very disappointed because I was unable to get a video of it on my phone and when I woke up I was so disappointed that it wasn't real, but I still checked my phone just in case.

I have no video or even pictures of the dancing cats, And that makes me sad.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

I got you friend.

a picture of a cat dancing

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Didn't you have ads in the 20th century?
Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio. And in magazines. And movies. And at ball games and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts and written on the sky. But not in dreams. No siree!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's important to draw a line SOMEWHERE don't you think?

Just like people have to work every second of their waking life, it's important to draw a line in the sand and say "I will not work in my dreams, fuck you!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yes, the line is that we should ban both ads and wage labour in the waking world too.

Workers of the world, unite! We have nothing to lose but our chains!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If I work in my sleep I get the day off, right?

Right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

The fuck is a 'day off?'

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

You can completely control your dreams and do whatever you can imagine!

Ooh! Can I work extra hours?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"Does it mean I can enjoy life during day?"

"No, it means you will work day AND night."

"Does it mean I will be paid more?"

"No, you will be paid less."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Working while sleeping and having the rest of the day for myself seems cool

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, no. This would become "8 hours for working, 8 hours for working while you're asleep, and 8 hours working because 'fuck you' that's why"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think much of anything will become of this tbqh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If it's even possible to utilise your dreams usefully... surely this will have an impact on sleep quality? You can't just not rest and expect to get the benefit of rest.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

and having the rest of the day for myself

XD

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I mean if I sleep 8 hours and I did my 8 hour shift, no more work

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's how this will work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Probably won't work at all tbh, but if I got the option, I'd rather sleep work than awake work is all I'm saying.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lmao I can't even imagine what crazy surrealist shit I'd come up with in my sleep.

"So, fembywho, I believe you worked last night, any progress you would like to share?"

"Ahem. Yes, uh. cough I searched for the lost spirit of my old acquaintance V from high school who bravely sacrificed herself for the good of humanity, and now is our only help against the alien menace. My companions thought her temple would be the most likely place to search, but I didn't expect to find anything. Her spirit is hiding somewhere only I can find, but I haven't been able to access that knowledge. I have seen visions and flown across many lands."

"Excellent progress. Keep us informed."

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh man.

We should all act like these totally work and they’re a huge boon to productivity.

Normalize mid-day office naps! PAID naps!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

I want to make sure I'm squeezed for every drop of productivity.. my purpose has become clear

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (4 children)

did nobody learn from hypnospace outlaw?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Glad I wasn’t the only one..

Better get your beefbrain shield now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It's another "don't create the Torment Nexus" situation again...

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They literally stole this from Hypnospace Outlaw

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Can't wait until they make beefbrain real

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

This is so weird and not for the obvious reasons. We as a general people (worldwide) are more productive then ever and if anything there is more production then the market can handle. Even by the most cut throat thinking this is pointless. Who is going to buy the products produced by the sleep slaves?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

sources and image transcript:

  • the top half of the image is screenshot of this article about a startup claiming to be able to use ultrasound to induce lucid dreams so that "people can work in their sleep". (spoiler: it's vaporware)
  • the lower half of the image is a screenshot from this (imo worth-watching) 2 minute video from 2016: Hayao Miyazaki's thoughts on an artificial intelligence with the subtitle "I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself." There is a more detailed description of that video here. (Guillermo del Toro agrees.)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Qe testers around the world rejoice.

Got your stuff mostly automated,? Run those tests while you sleep.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This isn’t new. The upside is that you can, for instance, practice playing the guitar in your sleep. Or work out. It makes a measurable difference.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Is that the movie prop from Dream Scenario?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why does it seem that all the 80 sci-fi I watched was actually a documentary of the future...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

They keep making the fucking Torment Nexus.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Wasn't this on an episode of Trash Future?

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