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Friday began with House conservatives holding a press conference to trash the $1.2 trillion spending bill their leaders negotiated with Democrats, sparking some fears about its prospects. 

It squeaked through — requiring 67% of the House, it ended up winning 68% — but a majority of Republicans voted against it.

It was just the first headache of the day for House Republicans as they adjourned for a two-week recess, offering a distillation of the infighting and disenchantment that continues to plague the party 15 months into its narrow majority. Things were about to get worse.

Moments later, far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., shocked her colleagues by filing a motion to overthrow Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., blasting his stewardship of the chamber and threatening renewed turmoil at the helm of her party.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I really wish the Republicans would hurry the fuck up with the whole “tearing themselves apart and sinking their collective viability as a political party” thing.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The American public has a very short memory. It needs to slow burn until October, then flare up like a motherfucker. Then we see a sweep by the democrats.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Trump voters will vote for him no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's not the dedicated trump voters that need this.

It's the dumbasses who have seen everything over the last 8 years and are somehow still on the fence

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"I know Trump was the worst President we ever had, but why does that mean I should vote for Biden?"

Motherfucker, the fact that you even had to ask that question means you don't deserve the responsibility of participating in the electoral process.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, picking and choosing who gets to participate in democracy isn't democracy. We're stuck with morons among us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately, picking and choosing who gets to participate in democracy isn’t democracy.

That's not necessarily true- direct democracy isn't the same a representative democracy, for example. Also, a very strong case can be made that the US functionally isn't a democracy, since one political party wields outsized amounts of power compared to "the will of the people." A "true" democracy wouldn't allow a President who lost the popular vote, or require a party to get 60%+ of the popular vote to get barely 50% members in Congress.

And yes, I realize the idea that requiring voters to be informed on issues and government opens the door to suppression of voters for illegitimate reasons. I don't know what would be a more ideal solution, but I do know that this

We’re stuck with morons among us.

is a big chunk of the problem. A functioning government requires an invested and educated populace, and too many Americans aren't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Nobody is on the fence about this. There are only open Trump supporters and those that won't admit to it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

They are only the openly fascist or the stupidly fascist. Either way they're fascists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Absolutely not. Everyone who voted Biden in the previous election is persuadable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It is less about being on the fence versus being motivated to actually go vote. Most people are like "whatever", and "my vote doesn't matter anyhow" and "if I vote, I'm going to get jury duty". If the politicians can't get people to vote, they lose.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

Dedicated Trump voters are only about 20-30% of voters. The rest who elected him or vote for him are fence-sitters. That’s why he never got the popular vote and barely got enough to win the EC. And why he lost in 2020.

This info is targeted at them, and they actually listened then and listen now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

There is more than the presidency. Flipping the house and keeping the Senate are almost as important as winning the presidency. The ideal October special is a house that’s in chaos, together with Trump throwing tantrums because of legal issues.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I keep thinking this, I think political reform is necessary to fulfil this (well obviously) because as it stands, a replacement for the Republican party imo can only look like how we've seen it mutate with trump.. and I don't think that will be politically healthy.

Ranked choice voting comes to mind, but some people having built their entire worldview out of some sports game Dems v Repubs, it'll be hard to bolster cosiderations for such a restructuring

[–] [email protected] 65 points 7 months ago (5 children)

as they adjourned for a two-week recess

How many fucking two week vacations do they get? They just had one for the holidays...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Side rant but one of my Comp Sci professors was a house member and he was gone for a few weeks out of a semester.

I hated him because he required us to still go to class just to have his TA hand out some shitty worksheet.

When he was there he was also a shitty professor

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's not supposed to be a vacation, although it often is. It's supposed to be time they spend back in their home district meeting with constituents.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Congress is a little bit of sitting and voting, and a lot of background hustle. If you think about it, it takes an hour or two to vote on a bill, maybe a day to debate it in the floor. The rest of the time is writing bills (or having them written), explaining to people why they should vote for them, making deals to secure votes, or hustling for power. When people say it’s a lot like high school, it is.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

A lot. But they also use some of that time to be present in their districts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

You can see here: https://rollcall.com/app/uploads/2023/11/2024CQRCCongressionalCalendar.pdf

The days in white are “recess” for both senators and house members….

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Oh no, I hope it continues.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


WASHINGTON — Friday began with House conservatives holding a press conference to trash the $1.2 trillion spending bill their leaders negotiated with Democrats, sparking some fears about its prospects.

It was just the first headache of the day for House Republicans as they adjourned for a two-week recess, offering a distillation of the infighting and disenchantment that continues to plague the party 15 months into its narrow majority.

Moments later, far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., shocked her colleagues by filing a motion to overthrow Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., blasting his stewardship of the chamber and threatening renewed turmoil at the helm of her party.

It was the last vote for Rep. Ken Buck, R-Colo., the conservative hardliner who was all but banished from the party after he insisted that its leaders stop spreading lies about the 2020 election and accept that former President Donald Trump lost.

But her move to relinquish the coveted gavel mid-session highlights the paralysis that has defined the government funding process, which took four stopgap measures and six months into the fiscal year to resolve.

“Absolutely incredible ‘last scene in a Godfather movie’ vibes in the U.S. House of Representatives today,” said Aaron Fritschner, deputy chief of staff for Rep. Don Beyer, D-Va.


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