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I have a new non-stick pan and it's the first time in my entire life I've had this issue when frying an egg.

Whether I'm on 1/10 heat (Gas stove), 3/10, or 5/10 heat it does the same thing: It films over the skin of the egg with a strange texture, but doesn't actually stick to the pan.

In that video I managed to separate the film from the egg, but I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong to have that film develop in the first place? It's a firm-plastic texture, like a tupperware lid.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  1. Don't use metal utensils on non-stick pans. You run the risk of scratching it up and you don't want to be eating either the coating or cooking directly against the (usually) aluminium of the pan itself.
  2. It looks more like you just burned the egg. Lower the temp. Eggs cook best at a medium low heat.
  3. You also should still be using some kind of oil or fat in a non-stick pan. This whole video looks like how my dad cooks and he just drops the eggs into the pan because "it doesn't stick." ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ It does. Use some oil or butter.
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[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

that is what you get when you burn an egg, in my experience. I'm not sure why it's happening no matter how low you have the heat, though.

Is it a super cheap, all aluminum (or aluminium) pan? If it's very thin and extremely heat conductive, you might not be able to get your heat low enough to not burn the egg.

First thing I'd try is adding some fat to the pan before putting the egg in. Even with supposed non-stick, throw some butter in there.

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You have the heat too high and no surface liquid to transfer heat from pan to egg (like a fat) so the part of the egg that hits the pan first is denaturing super fast into a puck while the rest of the egg cooks slower. First, ditch the non-stick or be ready to spend a LOT more, second, cook your eggs with a spot of fat.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In a shitty non-stick like this, a ton of fat rather than a spot of it would probably also do the trick.

But I suggest well-seasoned cast iron

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If you use seasoned cast iron do you not need to add oil?

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

You do, it's more a matter of it being pretty stick resistant and the pan density stabilizes the heat from the stove.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What bear said, and also oil isn't just about preventing sticking, it also helps transfer heat to the food

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Fat is the thermal paste of the cooking world.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Yes, I've had that happen multiple times. This happens when you're technically not frying your eggs because of not enough fat. Sure, it won't stick even without, but it will also come out like this.

Seems like the fat keeps the egg from burning and will also influence the underside. What you got there is a disk of nearly-burned protein.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You've got some good suggestions here but also, consider ditching nonstick stuff for something safer like cast iron or stainless steel: There's all sorts of nasty shit used in the creation of nonstick surfaces and they can come off if the coating is ever damaged (which can be very easy to do).

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Add carbon steel pans to that list of safer pans.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Pricey, but I've heard it's the shit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The carbon steel frying pan that IKEA sells is cheap and surprisingly decent after a few seasoning runs.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

no shit? I'm intrigued.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

First, that pan is dry. It needs some lubricant in the form of fat. Second, you say this happens even on 1/10. Have you set the burner to 1 and made sure that it's not cranking out 10/10 flame? Third. How long are you keeping that egg in there before flipping it?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's the egg sticking to the pan, try using more fat, that worked for me. Or maybe I just needed to break in the pan. Either case, stop using metal on non stick. Use a silicone out wooden spatula

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Stop using non-stick* Switch to cast iron for cheap or stainless steel for fancy

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not sure why youโ€™re downvoted here, but youโ€™re right.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Probably because of the steep learning curve, especially for stainless.

Iโ€™ve been using stainless for years and I have a stoneware nonstick for cooking sticky stuff like potatoes and eggs. I just donโ€™t have the skill down for those yet.

Also cast iron being cheap is kinda laughable. Itโ€™s really expensive, even though it will last forever.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Itโ€™s not particularly expensive. Cast iron and stainless steel are both about $50 for a pan, with prices going basically as high as you want for either.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

why? whats better about cast iron or stainless steel?

in my experience stainless steel is awful and its always a mess to clean.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I used to think this too. It just takes a little bit of time to learn the proper technique. Managing heat and a little bit of fat will make them more or less able to be wiped out. I pretty much only use carbon steel and stainless now. I used to use cast iron but I got tired of lugging it around, so it only comes out if I need to sear a steak now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

please elaborate on your technique!

usually i have to use more oil/butter/yadda but it ends up still sticking.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I remember someone once saying, "hot pan, cold oil, food won't stick". So I heat my pan, put a little butter in it. It should sizzle and melt but not brown. If it starts browning then the pan is too hot. Swirl it around a little then add egg. Temperature control is really the biggest factor I've found. It's also ok to take the pan off the burner if it's too hot. This is especially true if making scrambled eggs.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I only ever cook eggs in my cast iron skillet. If I am patient enough to get it hot enough and cook with butter, and don't mess around with the egg too much very little sticks and what does is a cinch to clean. The pans are heavy as hell though. I don't lug except car camping. I haven't tried stainless yet but it sounds like it would be worth doing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I have found that I prefer the better temperature control I get from carbon or stainless. Plus they weigh a lot less.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A single steelwire sponge can clean a cast iron easy in 60 seconds for even the biggest messes.

Most people that say cast iron are difficult just haven't been properly taught how to take care of one (including myself in the past). They are a buy for life product, my wife has skillets that have been in the family for generations.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I just use a lodge bristle brush. But yeah they're easy enough to clean.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

No toxic forever chemicals for me.

If you don't use metal, and don't overheat the pan it should be fine, but once I learned ss/ci I got rid of all my non stick and never looked back.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You can get similar non stick properties from learning to use cast iron or stainless steel. If you're interested, I'd say start with cast iron, it's cheaper and while you're still learning how to make it non-stick super easy to clean by literally scratching it with chainmail!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

And it'll strengthen your arms!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

i actually have an almost unused stainless steel pan.

how can i make it non stick?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Google "stainless steel water test" but basically the water starts sliding around on the pan.

For eggs it needs to be hot enough to just maintain this effect, or else they can burn and start sticking again. You can also add a bit of oil at this point but it's not strictly necessary and can cause smoke depending on the oil used.

Unfortunately the quality of your pan also has an effect here. 3-5 layer "all clad" is best. But if you wound up with partial clad like me (the kind with a visible disk on the bottom) the section that isn't clad will almost always get at least a bit of food stuck to it.

Learning stainless steel imo also takes more patience if you're on electric, because you'll need to wait longer for the temperature to settle, but not impossible. I switched to magnets! If you want to give magnets a shot, but don't want to spend $2000+, you can get an induction hot plate online for ~$100

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I looked that up and it sounds mighty hard! It seems I just opened a pandora's box of stuff I need to learn to actually do this.

And the quality of my pan is probably not the best either.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It's okay, just practice getting the water to bead, that'll help a lot, and if something gets stuck, plastic or wood scrapers and barkeeper's friend will help.

Sometimes I've also boiled stuck on food, that's helped it release too.

And worst case, you make mistakes and can learn from them, no harm no foul I'd say!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

My wife still does eggs in the cast iron, which is fine, anything that gets stuck on we just scrape off.

Cast iron is extra post cleaning care Stainless steel is extra cooking and cleaning care. Get barkeeper's friend.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

You cooking dry, lube that baby up with butter or oil, just cause it's non stick doesn't mean you don't need lube

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Butter. Most of the time the answer is Butter.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Add a lil fat to the pan. Small pat of butter or some olive oil will do. Heck, any lipid of your choosing, really.

Also, keep that metal spatula away from your nonstick cookware!!! You'll scratch the coating, lose your nonstick surface and end up eating Teflon

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I've never seen anything like that. Weird!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Use low heat, add butter or bacon grease to pan and melt before cooking the eggs.

Once you get good at that, try it on a seasoned cast iron. Once you get good at that, ditch the nonstick disposable health and environmental hazard. Cast irons last lifetimes and the worst thing they put in your food is iron.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I do this when I make scrambled eggs because I'm impatient and keep the heat up too high.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I wish you luck with your issue! I'm just here to say that, I bought dirt cheap Walmart cast iron pans which I abuse, and they are so much better than non stick pans in my experience.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Heat the pan longer and use more fat (oil, butter, etc)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

What kind of oil/fat are you using?

It's possible that part of your issue is that you've used that metal spatula too much and you've scraped off some of the coating so the egg is binding to the pan. Enough fat would help that, but a degraded Teflon pan isn't something you should be using.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That is just the egg white. Like @Kolanaki said, change your temp and use some type of fat. If it happens on the lowest setting, you could have a burner issue. Or maybe you need to learn your new skillet. Perfectly acceptable ๐Ÿ™‚

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