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[–] [email protected] 98 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We seem to like to draw a line between crimes where the damages caused are visible from those where the damages caused are less visible, but its undoubtable that the crimes of the wealthy, so called white collar crimes, cause just as real material pain and suffering and societal damage.

If anything, the consequences of a crime should be scaled by your wealth and privileged in a society, because you really have no excuse for not following the law. Earn above a million dollars a year? Well a parking ticket costs you 10s of thousands of dollars? Earn above a billion a year and park outside the lines? Gallows.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Earn above a billion a year and park outside the lines? Gallows.

Making these people members of the working class is a fate worse than death.

I think we should just do that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but at least tar and feather them first.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

If proven beyond a doubt, I agree. But the communist leadership has been fairly lax on enforcement ... until now that is. One has to wonder why all of a sudden they've decided to do something?

[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like this is an important thing.

Top global firms, such as Ernst & Young and KPMG, did not flag concerns about the bank in their audits, public documents show.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

The board, CEOs and senior executives of these leeches need to be standing in line holding their wicker baskets.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (25 children)

The state shouldn't be in the business of killing people.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago

While true, billionaires shouldn't be in the business of existing.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

$12 billion dollars is the equivalent of the 1.3 million years of work in vietnam. that's the livelihoods of more than 34000 people, stolen to profit one person.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Killing them won't change that.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The Vietnamese government does things like this on a cyclical basis. Every rich person here and everyone in government is corrupt as fuck. The president resigned a few hours ago over corruption. The president before him resigned just over a year ago over corruption. They're all stealing money. New government comes in and puts the old government in jail for corruption. A newer government comes in and puts that government in jail for corruption. Death sentences for people in top positions and bankers and whoever else. But they're all corrupt. Everyone above middle class here is corrupt.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Completely agree. Except for billionaires. Kill them all and do something useful for society with their money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Man people on this site are so bloodthirsty. Why not just seize their assets and liquidate them?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I honestly think there is comfort in the idea that it will literally never happen so it's easier for them to throw around "guillotine" in place of "I'm mad and I hate these people."

They'll still argue that they mean it but they will literally never do it.

Never.

Again for those in the back, you people will never break out the guillotines, it's all talk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Why not just seize their assets and liquidate them?

YES, YES! Seize their assets and liquidate the billionaires!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

The damage billionaires can do by leveraging their money is so immense it could financially ruin many people's lives. How many end up homeless or kill themselves out of despair? Their one life isn't enough to balance the scales but it'll send a very clear message to white collar criminals once one is executed: the damage you do is tantamount to first degree murder and will be punished as such.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

Finally, some good news!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Over 9000 dong, 4% of their GDP.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You really shouldn't call their P gross.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

The guillotine you say?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 75 points 7 months ago (12 children)

I'm not. Imprison her for life, but the death penalty is never acceptable as long as there's even the slightest chance of a false conviction. As long as "the system" can get it wrong, it should not be allowed to carry out irreversible punishments.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying and I can't say I disagree, but conversely:

Eat the rich

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, prions are terrifying, so eating the rich is not a practical possibility.

Now, feeding them alive to the big cats at the zoo, on the other hand, would serve the same purpose, and entertain the kitties to boot, which the brain control parasites my kittens have infected me with tell me is a good thing, and since we don't eat them or anything that eats them there's no risk of prion spread, at least until deer chronic wasting disease inevitably spreads to humans and kills us all.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As they say, there are no ~~moral~~ ethical billionaires. In order to enrich themselves so much over their peers, they have necessarily trampled over them.

I do agree that giving a government the official power to just execute whoever they want (it would be trivial to manufacture a case like this in Vietnam) is a very bad precedent to set.

But, I mean, Vietnam is an authoritarian government, so this shouldn't surprise anyone.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

They're not exactly known for human rights support.

On the other hand, they actually stopped a genocide in living memory, which is more than you can say for most nations.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (12 children)

The whole country is corrupt, it's just so open and brazen. No one would be left alive if they did this to anyone guilty.

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