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"The shitshow that is supporting Israel during its accelerating genocide, I won’t defend all that much. But the overall attempt to paint him as the same as the average Democrat is dead wrong."

Won't defend it all that much? So there is a defence even though they admit it's an active genocide. Amazing

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 7 months ago (2 children)

they’re tilted that a trans marxist predicted the future

[–] [email protected] 70 points 7 months ago

Oh shit, I didn’t see that the tweet was from over a year ago. Absolutely nailed it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)

LOL is it clairvoyance or is it a pattern of behavior? Who can say.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 7 months ago (3 children)

He ordered the forgiveness of half a trillion dollars in student debt, about a third of the current total balance, and the Supreme Court told him no.

You know you've been doing great when one of your four greatest achievements is something you gave up on doing.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And your (now abandoned) goal was to solve 1/3 of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago

1/3 of a problem that, by its very nature, would rapidly grow back!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago

ALL of their so called "wins" are like that.

I wish I could get social credit for the bare minimum effort

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago

Literally the first one they admit it's not nearly enough but, surprise, that's also not bidens fault.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

Left wing critique of liberals is actually a right wing scheme cooked up in a "darkweb forum".

[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hexbear is a darkweb forum.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Dark-mode-web forum... its easier on my old eyes...

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Literally a federated forum with hundreds of other sites. Easy to visit by simply typing "hexbear.net" into your browser of choice...

"Darkweb forum"

Words mean nothing to these people

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago

dark web is when no ads and too many tankies powercry-2

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago

Even then, walkway was mostly right-wing critiques of democrats like saying "the looney left has gone too far!!!" anytime something almost kinda good happens.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

Spooky darkweb forums are their goto when they feel left out.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Every single one of your headlines are rote r/Conservative and r/The_Donald. Your mask slips even further. Your next move will be to pretend that your an ex democratic voter turned conservative. Go back to Reddit, nobody’s buying your bs.

Your mask slips even further. Your next move will be to pretend that your an ex democratic voter turned conservative.

literally speaking like a jojo villain wearing an "i voted" pin and a Hillary 2024 shirt

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 73 points 7 months ago (5 children)

"I'd you're going to keep bashing Biden I'm going to keep posting why he's awesome."

Literally first bullet point

"he's great on climate change, obviously what he's doing isn't nearly enough and is way to late but ThAtS nOT hiS fAuLt."

Literally can't make this up

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He took the biggest action on climate change in US history; the goal of the climate bill is to put us on track for a 40% reduction in US emissions by 2030. It’s way too late but that’s clearly not Biden’s fault since he started fighting for it basically as soon as he got into office, and managed to achieve passed legislation which is several standard deviations above the norm for “let’s ignore it until we’re underwater and on fire” US politician status quo.

First of all having a goal isn't the same thing as having an accomplishment. Second Biden was vice president and a senator for decades. Biden isn't Mayo Pete who has only had a career long enough to fix bread prices in Canada.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lol their entire list is "he says he wishes he could do (good thing) even though he didn't do it" over and over.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

its things he wishes he could do even though he didnt do it, and the wishes aren't even that good!

liberals would legitimately get a genie wish and wish for world hunger to be reduced by 10% because their brains are just so big and adult, you idealist communists wouldnt get it

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago

It's crazy that the old joke of "if democrats found a magic lamp and got three wishes, they would bargain down to one, and use it on something republicans want" has needed updating.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago

a goal also isn't even the same thing as having a concrete, achievable, worked-out plan. And even if there was a great plan, running for president again and risking a trump win/resurgent right in 4 more years even if not, would undermine the feasibility of implementing said plan

[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

The republicans, who had no legislative power whatsoever during the majority of his term thus far, stopped him from doing anything good.

They really just want us to forget the race in Georgia.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago

I think ‘republican obstructionism’ has become a thought terminating cliche rather than an argument anyone really believes. It’s a universal excuse. Any policy failure could be said to have failed because of obstructionism, so it works for everything, and asks no explanation for why any given policy succeeded or failed. “Just be grateful that anything got done at all!”

Anyone blaming obstructionism is basically saying “all Democrat wins are legitimate and the result of their competence, and all of their failures are illegitimate the result of bad faith actors.” I don’t know how you could take someone seriously if they were that unwilling to be even mildly critical of their own party.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It was the Parliamentarian!! maybe-later-kiddo

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 72 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Imagine having a dog that loyal. Just a perfect little buddy for every adventure. Don't even need to feed it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago

Not feeding it is the best part because it only gets more aggressive twords your enemies while also increasing it's love for you. Truly a creature of wonder.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 7 months ago

Imagine carrying the burden of feeling like you didn’t vote hard enough so now proxy wars and finance capitalism will be set back a tiny bit.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But the overall attempt to paint him as the same as the average Democrat is dead wrong.

cat-confused

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

that's true, he's older and more racist than the average democrat. More of a rapist too. Really just worse in all dimensions

Any modern true-believer democrat (maybe actually gives a shit about lgbt people, abortion, labor rights, etc. or is at least better at paying them lip service) could have leveraged the circumstances of the last several years to do a lot more good than biden has done. And they still would have deserved a lot of criticism and done a lot of things I don't agree with.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Feel free to respond to my list of facts

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I showed you my facts please respond

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If y’all are going to post an incessant drumbeat of why Biden sucks, I’m just gonna keep pasting a few of the reasons why he doesn’t. It’s not just that it’s not his fault that the Republicans kept him from doing good things (although they did prevent him doing anything good at all); even hampered by their obstruction, he still managed to among other things that so could definitely name if I wasn’t so busy:

  • He took the biggest action on climate change in US history; the goal of the climate bill is to put us on track for a -20% reduction in US emissions by 2083. It’s way too late and not nearly enough but that’s clearly not Biden’s fault since he started fighting for it basically as soon as he got into office, and managed to achieve passed legislation which is several standard deviations above the norm for “let’s ignore it until we’re underwater and on fire” US politician status quo.
  • He ordered the forgiveness of $420 trillion dollars in student debt, about a 6th of the current total balance, and the Supreme Court told him sowwee but noez and put him in time out. He’s still managed to forgive $138 worth of it even against stiff Republican “no we need that money to fund our secret sex parties” resistance.
  • He introduced a bill to legalize marijuana federally, which the Republicans killed in the senate. [I didn’t even have to edit this one. It’s hilarious enough as is.]
  • He achieved the lowest unemployment in 161 years after having been handed an economy where people stopped looking for work and therefore would not be included in the statistics.

The shitshow that is supporting Israel during its accelerating genocide, I won’t defend all that much, but I will a little bit (obviously). But the overall attempt to paint him as the same as the average Democrat is dead wrong. Rather, he is the median democrat. (And, for what it’s worth, “the DNC as a whole and Hilary Clinton specifically are tone deaf media idiots” I’ll also fully agree with. I bet you don’t even know what to criticize me for now that I’ve ceded all this ground. Just like the democrats.)

All the folks that like to post memes like this haven’t had much success in trying to say any of the above isn’t true.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

is this a bit Oh it's from the post, got a false positive hitler-detector carry on

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s only a bit if you don’t believe that Biden managed to forgive $138 of student debt. Or achieved a -20% reduction in carbon emissions.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

He had the power to forgive the Federally held portion of the debt, after the onset of a global medical crises, and only forgave part of it. The Supreme Court has ZERO enforcement power, that's why they call what the supreme court says "opinions", they carry no consequence of enforcement by themselves.

Biden administration knows the courts are packed with right wingers, and knows that they can use their opinions to "check" any radical change they publicly propose. Its the whole, "Daddy said yes but, 'Go ask what Mom says first", good cop/bad cop routine. The Biden administration could have just done it. It could have said, "We appreciate your opinion, but this is too important and necessary right now. So we're going to cancel all the Federally held student debt, instead of a portion of it."

But didn't.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago

holy shit lol we've gotten to the point where the ardent Biden defenders defend him by claiming he's not like other democrats. Not even "he's one of the good ones" let alone "he's a good democrat", they openly admit that the dems are just bad but somehow biden is actually good?

Incredible mental gymnastics. What little he's done has been a direct result of circumstances almost completely outside his control, he hasn't pushed the envelope at all, if anything he's held it back where possible

[–] [email protected] 49 points 7 months ago

It always make me feel happy to see guests from outside Hexbear use our dunk tank

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

They can say all they want. Its not going to help Biden. His own actions decide whether he wins or not. Stop the genocide, increase welfare and give out stimulus checks, stop the racist border bills. It's not that difficult, Biden just doesn't want to do it.

Biden didn't create any good jobs, all the jobs that were created were low paying ones, the very fact that the inflation didn't continue with a price-wage spiral due to lack of worker resistance unlike 1970s shows this.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The worst part about American political system supporters is their focus on the president when the seat of power is in the legislator and it has been literally frozen for 50 years and no major legislation is getting passed. The supporters point to minor policy changes like loan forgiveness or cannabis reform but their entire political system is seized up and in the worst state it has been in since the 1860s. The last major legislation passed by the congress was in the 90s to give themselves a raise.

https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/the-frozen-republic-how-the-constitution-is-paralyzing-democracy-9780151000852

To all lemmy.world people browsing this read this book.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If lemmitors could be persuaded to read a book, this post wouldn't exist

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago

I know right, I can dream that I live in a functional world with functional people I guess.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago

Do they not realize yet that there's no universe where Biden is winning this election?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Look at all the Russian tankie darkweb 4chan Chinese authoritarian woke pronoun troll bots trying to do a bad faith disinformation whataboutism on Hexbear

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago

soypoint-1 whataboutism soypoint-2

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They sure do talk all pretentious-like don't they

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

liberals live in a fantastical realm of whimsy where intent matters but outcomes do not

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago

keep pasting

That's the lib version and it's "keep libpasting" if they want to be pedantic.

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