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"The shitshow that is supporting Israel during its accelerating genocide, I won’t defend all that much. But the overall attempt to paint him as the same as the average Democrat is dead wrong."

Won't defend it all that much? So there is a defence even though they admit it's an active genocide. Amazing

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If y’all are going to post an incessant drumbeat of why Biden sucks, I’m just gonna keep pasting a few of the reasons why he doesn’t. It’s not just that it’s not his fault that the Republicans kept him from doing good things (although they did prevent him doing anything good at all); even hampered by their obstruction, he still managed to among other things that so could definitely name if I wasn’t so busy:

  • He took the biggest action on climate change in US history; the goal of the climate bill is to put us on track for a -20% reduction in US emissions by 2083. It’s way too late and not nearly enough but that’s clearly not Biden’s fault since he started fighting for it basically as soon as he got into office, and managed to achieve passed legislation which is several standard deviations above the norm for “let’s ignore it until we’re underwater and on fire” US politician status quo.
  • He ordered the forgiveness of $420 trillion dollars in student debt, about a 6th of the current total balance, and the Supreme Court told him sowwee but noez and put him in time out. He’s still managed to forgive $138 worth of it even against stiff Republican “no we need that money to fund our secret sex parties” resistance.
  • He introduced a bill to legalize marijuana federally, which the Republicans killed in the senate. [I didn’t even have to edit this one. It’s hilarious enough as is.]
  • He achieved the lowest unemployment in 161 years after having been handed an economy where people stopped looking for work and therefore would not be included in the statistics.

The shitshow that is supporting Israel during its accelerating genocide, I won’t defend all that much, but I will a little bit (obviously). But the overall attempt to paint him as the same as the average Democrat is dead wrong. Rather, he is the median democrat. (And, for what it’s worth, “the DNC as a whole and Hilary Clinton specifically are tone deaf media idiots” I’ll also fully agree with. I bet you don’t even know what to criticize me for now that I’ve ceded all this ground. Just like the democrats.)

All the folks that like to post memes like this haven’t had much success in trying to say any of the above isn’t true.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

is this a bit Oh it's from the post, got a false positive hitler-detector carry on

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s only a bit if you don’t believe that Biden managed to forgive $138 of student debt. Or achieved a -20% reduction in carbon emissions.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

When you look at the carbon reductions Biden was able to push through, how does it compare to the carbon emissions from Israel's genocide in Gaza?

Something tells me that, on balance, Biden has been worse for the climate.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

You can’t even address the $138. Typical. That held off my interest payments by at least several seconds.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

He had the power to forgive the Federally held portion of the debt, after the onset of a global medical crises, and only forgave part of it. The Supreme Court has ZERO enforcement power, that's why they call what the supreme court says "opinions", they carry no consequence of enforcement by themselves.

Biden administration knows the courts are packed with right wingers, and knows that they can use their opinions to "check" any radical change they publicly propose. Its the whole, "Daddy said yes but, 'Go ask what Mom says first", good cop/bad cop routine. The Biden administration could have just done it. It could have said, "We appreciate your opinion, but this is too important and necessary right now. So we're going to cancel all the Federally held student debt, instead of a portion of it."

But didn't.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Look, $138 split between 60 million borrowers is better than nothing. I’ll take my micropennies, thank you very much.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Elon please my people are dying

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

Yeah but clearly the criticism is that the things he's done are aberrations, Biden isn't in office to change things, he's in office to keep the status quo going; which was actively genocidal before Palestine kicked off last year.

Biden's given ICE and Border Patrol more money than ever and more and more folks are being punished for illegal immigration than ever before, a "crisis" which is both manufactured AND caused by US intervention in Centro and South America, which Biden supported.

Biden hasn't even attempted to change the genocidal embargo rules instated by Trump; let me tell you, if you see what the state of Cuba is you will want to beat the shit out of anyone responsible for strangling it's people.

Biden is more of the same, and more of the same in the United States is Bourgeois-led white supremacy leading further and further into fascism as the ire of empire turns from brown people abroad to working class people here; ignoring how this nation's been untenable for it's colonial subjects already living inside.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

But the only alternative is an AuThOrItArIaN cHeEtO