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Testing commissioned by Mamavation blog found high levels of a marker of PFAS in nine of 11 baggies tested

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here is the take away:

The only brand that did not show any markers of PFAS was Ziploc. Public health advocates say the best way consumers can protect themselves is to use glass containers instead of plastic.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Better Plastic Sandwich Bags like Ziploc These products were sent off to an EPA-certified laboratory and found to have no detection of organic fluorine.

Debbie Meyer Green Bags — non-detect organic fluorine

Ziploc Sandwich Bags — non-detect organic fluorine.

So a better “alternative” to Ziploc bags is Ziploc bags. This study synthesis was written by a someone that needs to retake some high school writing courses.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or they're a master at rhetorical argumentation and wrote it that way purposefully to send the message of, There are no better alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That was how I took it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I’m going to wager that SC Johnson’s legal team is going to knocking on some doors, given that this article says the word “ziploc” several dozen times before you scroll waaaay down and read that Ziploc brand bags don’t contain PFAS.

Edit: I’m referring to the study that this article is referring to:

https://www.mamavation.com/food/plastic-sandwich-bags-ziploc-pfas-forever-chemicals.html

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The word Ziploc has fallen into the same realm as Band-aid and Kleenex.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

100%

But people who skim the first couple pages of that article are totally going to get the impression that Ziploc brand bags are a problem.

If I wrote this, I would would’ve lead with that disclaimer so that didn’t have to waste time and money dealing with lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I only see a single reference to "Ziploc" and it's in the context of not containing PFAS. Unless the article has been updated to change the references, this comment is incorrect

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm really confused why the If You Care brand would have been flagged for PFAS. Unless they have another product I'm unaware of, their bags are made of uncoated paper. In other words, no plastics or waxes are used to make the product. They're even home compostable. Either they're lying out their ass, their supply line is compromised, the study/reporting on the study is wrong, or...?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

My money is on: the supply line is compromised.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Pfas is in rain, pfas in tubing, gaskets, pfas in conveyor belts

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Jesus fucking Christ ... 🤦🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

These companies are trying to kill us!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Is it even worth reporting on what has PFAS in it anymore? They're everywhere. And they'll stay everywhere, hence the 'forever chemicals' name.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago

It's absolutely worth it. One can drastically decrease exposure if they limit the main routes like carpets, furniture and food packaging. The blood level of PFAS matters even if we're all PFAS brothers and sisters.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I think it is. The more awareness people have, the more solutions we'll have to work around this global fuck up we've inherited. Use glass, foil, or PFAS-free silicone food containers. Get a water filter that removes PFAS. Buy different cookware without PFAS.

The idea is to avoid exposure where possible. Currently it's impossible to avoid it entirely and this has probably been the case for years. Hopefully we can have produce and products that don't have it in the future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But baggies?! If it's found in such a simple product with no obvious reason to need slick waterproofing...then yeah it's in everything

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, I kind of want my plastic baggies to be waterproof.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

The plastic itself is the barrier. It doesn't need any help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

They won't stay everywhere. They're very durable, but nothing is permanent. And there are currently processes in development to break them down.

And your body will eliminate them naturally, though it takes a long time. Meanwhile, you can reduce your PFAS exposure to slow or stop any increase of accumulation.