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We'll give the upgrade new try tomorrow. I've had some good input from admins of other instances, which are also gonna help troubleshoot during/after the upgrade.

Also there are newer RC versions with fixed issues.

Be aware that might we need to rollback again, posts posted between the upgrade and the rollback will be lost.

We see a huge rise in new user signups (duh.. it's July 1st) which also stresses the server. Let's hope the improvements in 0.18.1 will also help with that.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

A lot of improvements, but some weird problems. Jerboa finally allowed me to log in but not much else. Connect is working better, but won't allow me to reply to one particular post ("incorrect language" or something). The browser version and wefwef are slow and glitchy - my comment about birds ended up in a conversation about Lemmy apps. I don't know anything about tech stuff but I get the impression that people are working very hard to fix all the issues. And the spezidus wouldn't be making things easy. Looking forward to a bigger better Lemmy!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are currently some issues with wefwef
With the upgrade also came some API & Backend changes. Wefwef is working on adapting to it, as far as I know.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good luck! And thanks for keeping us updated with what you're all doing, I don't know why but it makes me feel part of something big :D

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it wise to do a big deployment on the day when you may receive a massive influx of new users from Reddit? The API changes take affect on the 1st.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wise ? No. Useful ? Maybe. If the improvement can help with the load and the general experience, it's a good idea.

And, hm, the "site is down sometimes" experience would not be that foreign to reddit user in the first place :D

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably not, but surprisingly some 3P apps still work. I can confirm that Joey for Reddit and Infinity for Reddit are still able to access reddit. Seems like they don't pull the plug in one go? Or cherry picking the most demanding apps first?

For context, it's July 1st 16:27 p.m., GMT+9 where I am.

There might be less users influx than expected, though we'll see in the next few hours or days.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of the apps will work until the devs pull the plug. Maybe those devs have decided to try to eat the cost and offset with subscriptions or something. I know the Apollo dev said it would cost him twenty million dollars per month to pay the API fees, so hopefully the devs of those other apps don't go bankrupt overnight.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think so, in Apollo's last update, Christian said

Looks like Reddit pulled the plug a little early. Apollo started crashing, but I just manually revoked my token and it looks like it fixes the crashing, but no more Reddit access haha.

that makes me think it's on reddit side to pull the plug, not devs. Also each client seems to give different error code, Sync for example give out Error 401, while other client (forgot which one) have Error 429 instead.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Sync got it's keys nuked. It started showing "You're being rate limited" messages at midnight (CEST) but it switched to 401 this morning.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The dev for sync opted to turn it off himself on June 30.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apollo also got nuked yesterday, and the dev specifically said Reddit did it and not him. (And he also said it would've been nice if Reddit told them what time it'd happen)

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good luck. This is my favorite instance so I will be eagerly awaiting. Lemmy has been incredible and strangely what I needed. I would doom scroll reddit and see the same posts and the same comment chains and just redundancy hell.

Lemmy feels so different and the community is so welcoming. Thanks again everyone for making this lost Redditor a found lemming (is that the correct term lol).

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For those that were about to Google it... 20:00 CET is 12pm PDT and 3pm EDT

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for all of your hard work!

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What happened? Or is this not yet done? Sorry Iโ€™m kinda lost in the whole CET timings.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What happened? Or is this not yet done? Sorry Iโ€™m kinda lost in the whole CET timings.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's this why I can't login to the jerboa app?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

How often do you plan to post that question?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Feels very sluggish for me

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What is new with the updated version later today?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is the update done? The platform isn't going too well ๐Ÿ˜…

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looks like it works, but it's very slow - 25 seconds to load the page. https://i.imgur.com/ghiofDC.png

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey man if y'all have planning meetings or anything for this stuff I'm willing to jump on and read the source code. 15 years engineering and dev, willing to put time in for you guys.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slow, but working.

I don't know if we're slow because of the upgrade, or because of the July rush from Reddit losing 3rd party API access.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

US people: This is 2p EDT today. I had to look it up, so I thought I'd save you the trouble.

EDIT: I'm assuming that Ruud means CEST (the summer daylight savings time version of the time zone that's currently being used there).

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cleared my cache and cookies as I thought it would be necessary like last time, but now I can't log in. The login button just turns into the animated wheel and then nothing happens. I'm typing this on a mobile where I still have an active session.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Super responsive, and I can login using Jerboa 37!

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crossing my fingers for everything to work out well. Iโ€™m looking forward to being able to log into Jerboa.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Me too! I miss Jerboa.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A bit concerning perhaps hold this off for a week or so seems like this is very important moment for the users from r**dit to decide if they want to be here or not.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's why it has to be done today. At the moment, Jerboa instantly crashes when trying to access Lemmy, which will definitely scare away new users. My understanding is that this is because Lemmy.World is on version 17, but Jerboa requires instances to be on version 18 or higher. If successful, I believe this would fix the instant crash issue, so we'll at least have an Android app working again.

Hopefully, these are just growing pains symptomatic of a site trying to deal with rapid growth and rapid improvements.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What happened? Or is this not yet done? Sorry Iโ€™m kinda lost in the whole CET timings.

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