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[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (4 children)

$749

They must have a different understanding of minimalism than I do, lol.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Minimalize your bank account.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was interested in this phone until I saw the price tag.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nokia's got you covered

they also nailed the minimalist vibe better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

32GB!? These things have a lot of storage now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Minimalist with a 6.7" screen, eh? Now I really want to know how they define minimal lol. Minimal features? Minimal security? Minimal support?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Mainline phones are already minimalist.

I want a swiss army knife phone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Now I'm imagining a phone with a push-button blade at the side of it. 🙃

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Punkt rocks

Punk aint dead!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Sorry about Zed though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Came to say this lol

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I don't get the use case. What does it offer over getting an old phone and sticking LineageOS on it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Or any pixel and putting grapheneos on it.

I think the advantage is that you get to pay $20/mo for some software after the 1st year.

Wtf.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Right. Like, why would anyone pay a subscription for that?

Edit: I think I get it now:

Those who buy the MC02 get a year for free, after which they’ll pay around $20/€15/£13 each month (discounted if paid annually) to access a handful of services, including email, a VPN (dubbed “Digital Nomad”), online synchronization for calendar and contacts, secure storage on Punkt’s own Swiss servers and the express promise that there will be no ads or third-party crawlers.

So you can access cloud services without being tied to Google, I suppose. Still, the value proposition is questionable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And even that advantage can be minimized by getting any bundle of privacy products, like Proton which offer all of those (Mail, VPN, Drive, Calendar) or even with your self-hosted VPS (Some VPS seller even allow you to prepare it with Nextcloud and a VPN relay for near no extra paiement).

I see the "pay once to one company", but you also need to trust them entirely, for EVERYTHING.

Also, there's already plenty of companies doing such thing (regardless of how practical/private/secure they are)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

/e/OS is extremely insecure.

Iodé is just LineageOS which is also not better

Purism (librem) is a scam company not delivering any phones to paying customers, while pretending to do well.

GrapheneOS is the only one that makes sense, and they use it as Base, so if you for some reason dont want GrapheneOS this may be the next best thing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can brag about how you didn't pay as much as an iPhone while still being able to lord it over the plebs that your phone was expensive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

so...be a douche about it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can you look at the phone and honestly tell me it's not kinda douchey?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

personally, i've got more important shit going on that what phone people are using. in the case of this phone, it looks like any other number of Android phones with a custom theme.

i'm assuming it's more than that, but it still looks a bit silly. you can be minimalist and still appreciate things like color.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Might be more secure since it's based on GrapheneOS.

If they didn't mess anything up (security and privacy wise) in their deriviative OS, then I would feel comfortable recommending this to non-tech savvy people who care about their privacy.

Edit: Also with those specs and that battery without Google Play Services, this phone might last me a week on a single charge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It is based on GrapheneOS which is exactly what the project wants.

GrapheneOS is permissively licensed which means exactly this is possible and wanted. I dont get it, but I guess its realism.

Their hardware is way less secure though, so I will stick with user Pixels and GrapheneOS.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Those specs are just horrendous, why would they put an LCD when they got that pure black theme going on?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

One of the screenshots has google play store installed on it, that'll do wonders for privacy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

According to the article, it is installed in a "sandbox". As their OS is based on GrapheneOS, I assume they're using the same solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah it should be sandboxed Play if they dont totally mess up

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, no...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Aaah that Apostrophy OS thing.

Sooo: their phone is way less secure than a Google Pixel, their OS is paid but possibly less secure than GrapheneOS as they need to remove features like Memory Tagging that is only available on Pixels.

Hell I dont even know if they have a secure element.

Until we get Sourcecode I wouldnt trust them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I always get hopeful when I see minimalist because I'm hoping for the return of smaller phones. I wish I was smart enough to recreate the feel rested of the nexus 5x with modern hardware. Without the issues the original had ofc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

If the manufacturer doesn't state the SoC, lag is what you will see!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago