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[–] [email protected] 149 points 7 months ago (10 children)

So only three years of Steve Huffman's salary?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago

Great marketing for an IPO ...... we need enough money to equal three times what our CEO gets

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Watch as he burns through it in one:-).

Also, bold of us to assume that he has not already spent it:-P.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Looking at what reddit was and what Reddit is now, I genuinely can't imagine why anybody goes there anymore. The odd time I do some nice doomscrolling, I find that >99% of the content is re-heated and re-served. Nothing there informs me anymore. Nothing there inspires me. Nothing makes me think in a new way.

Every day the same thing ad nausea. Fascism bad. Sexism bad. Phobia bad. Musk bad. Orange man bad. Inflation bad. Boomers bad. Cats good. Name my rescue dog. Celebrity good. Celebrity dead.

That site should be renamed Reggurgitatit.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Every day the same thing ad nausea. Fascism bad. Sexism bad. Phobia bad. Musk bad. Orange man bad. Inflation bad. Boomers bad. Cats good. Name my rescue dog. Celebrity good. Celebrity dead.

That's not just Reddit. That's the entire Internet right now. Reddit or Lemmy, X or Mastodon, Facebook or anything else on the Fediverse. It's all the same. We are living in a time of mass fear because of several different reasons. War, climate, economy, personal rights... pick whatever topic you want. There's a reason to be angry about it.

We need to go back to the days of happy people sharing their passions, rather than angry people attacking each other. But that won't happen anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

The big problem is algorithmically driven content feeds. They don't feed you content that makes you happy, they feed you content that makes you mad. I think Lemmy is different in that your feeds are based on what is popular in the communities that you've subscribed to. Reddit used to work like that, but now it's all algorithmic content too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Your experience is very different from mine. Yoy make it sound rosy over there. In my experience all but a few subs have slipped to the right. I've seen blatantly racist top comments on racist-bait posts on multiple mainstream subs.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I go there still when I want product recommendations that aren't full of marketing/ads. If I use a search engine to search for example, "dashcam recommendations," I get a million results that are sponsored, SEO-optimized, or otherwise garbage. If I go on Reddit, I'll find an entire community devoted to the topic with seemingly real people discussing the pros/cons of all different models.

I've tried searching with Lemmy but most of the time I can't find the answers I'm looking for so end up crawling back to Reddit.

I absolutely don't go there to doomscroll like I used to, I've thankfully moved on from that life.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I go there still when I want product recommendations that aren't full of marketing/ads.

I need you to understand that Reddit Astroturfing is a gigantic market. You're no more getting authentic experiences than you are with random (I got it for free with a check for $5000) YouTube review.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've never seen the view of an IPO so heavily affected by bias. Superusers hate Reddit but so what - what matters is whether soccer moms are scrolling and being shown ads. No one cares that the most costly users are unsatisfied. You and me both are nothing to investors.

Is there some objective analysis of this IPO? All I'm seeing is "I'm a superuser who spent a lot of time on Reddit in 2007 and it was far superior back then. The stock will tank."

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They should do a reverse gamestop on the ipo

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

I guarantee you they do just that if you buy it through some shitty sub-brokerage

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Reddit is planning six tiers of early access based on each "participant's contributions to Reddit," the company said in its updated SEC filing. Those tiers are based on a user's "karma" score, ostensibly an aggregate total of up/down votes on posts and comments.

The first tier of users will be those "who have meaningfully contributed to Reddit community programs," though what that means isn't explained more clearly. After that come tier 2 users, who must hold at least 200,000 karma points or have taken at least 5,000 moderator actions. Tier three includes users and moderators who hold at least 100,000 karma points and have taken 2,500 moderator actions. Tiers 4 and 5 are each half of the previous tier's total, and tier 6 includes everyone else, with a waitlist available if the total number of shares purchased exceeds the original 1.76 million.

Basically people who karma farm with low effort posts. This will only encourage low quality posts.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The best part is that this whole thing is about having the "opportunity" to purchase reddit stock at its IPO price. This user generated content farm wouldn't dare give away equity for free to users responsible for the site having any past, present, or future value.

I'm not a finance person, but the only gambling I'd do on this company is hope that Wall Street pumps the price post-IPO so I can short it.

My understanding is that the value of each reddit user is priced roughly at $2. A Facebook user is priced at roughly $40. Their only options to maybe be profitable are more enshittification, more users, or both. Or, you know, not paying hundreds of millions of dollars to the execs of an RSS feed with voting and comments.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I bet wallstreetbets is going to pile into shorts out of the gate because who doesn't want to stick it to reddit and its WSB lol. Then after a slumpy start some whale is going to blow up all those shorts and pump it like crazy and then everyone will buy panic calls and the early ones in will fade the top and screw over the call buyers on the way back down. Thats my prediction. Not touching this with someone else's 10 foot pole lol

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A Reddit user is $2 now, but they have terrible ad targeting. Reddit users volunteer troves of info about themselves, so even a modest effort to start tying all those user signals together could be a great boost to that number (which really wouldn’t take much). Plus monetizing that base for LLM data and you got a stew going. They’ll of course do the cash grabby enshitifying stuff too, but their user data is much more underutilized than facebooks at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

As someone who was invited to that first group and told them to go fuck themselves, it's actually mostly people who have participated in reddit surveys and reddit mod meetups (where mods from a local area get blasted on Huffman's dime). Almost every mod that I know that went to one of these events got an invite and all of them gave similar answers to me.

Also, 200k karma isn't a ton. It likely places you in the top 1%, but most people don't participate anyways. I had over 300k (I think, I'm not checking) and maybe 1k was from a single post. Everything else was from the occasional comment

For the first group though they didn't actually bother to look into them. The 2 subs I ran have both been private since the last priest despite numerous warnings that I'd be removed if I didn't make them public. And my subs participated in numerous protests before then.

Still a mod on there all this time later!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait I could’ve gotten drunk on huffman’s money? I just skipped mod meetups because the company sounded awful

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

"Website that never made a profit thinks it's worth over 6 billion dollars. Yes US dollars."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I'd laugh about this but then I remember that someone recently bought Yahoo for $5B

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (2 children)

lol I kinda hope it crashes and burns

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was for many years a heavy user and while I liked my niche communities, I abhorred the platform and how it was manipulating us through multiple schemes.

Oddly enough, while the communities here are smaller or nonexistent, the experience seems better and healthier.
Maybe in time this will change too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

You need strict rules and strong moderation once any community gets to a certain size and starts attracting people outside of the enthusiasts.

The platform doesn't matter, it's just that lots of people suck and ruin the experience for others if there are enough of them.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (19 children)

748 million? I'll be surprised if they get more than 748 thousand.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Three fiddy.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I will be shorting once it plateaus a few days after launch. I'll at least finally get paid for them selling my data for a quick buck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Best of luck (mean that sincerely)

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I mean I want a stripper girlfriend and a gold-top les Paul but we don’t always get what we want do we, Steve you prick

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

As someone who dated a stripper in college and got to know a lot of those folks outside of work, trust me, you don’t actually want a stripper girlfriend.

Edit: That said, the guitar is a fine choice.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Well this is just begging the question for the rest of us: why not?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you want a stripper girlfriend you must be cool with her doing stripper things, but it turns out a lot of guys aren't.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Access to.

But I don’t think I know a single redditor who got the offer who is buying. I’m not.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It seems like these tech IPOs happen when they are at their peak. Get a huge influx of extra cash once user growth starts to slow, pay off your early investors and then self-implode.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Now why, (me doing a Jack Benny impression): why, ya see - why would I go and buy stock in a company that hated everything I ever posted, and then banned me for saying that progessive thought is a good thing. I ask you.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Twelve dollars and a bitten sandwich. That's my final offer, and already more than generous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Throwing away a perfectly good bitten sandwich like that? smh

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

It’s just hilarious to me how they have moderators on their platform doing all the work for them FOR FREE and they just sit there and try to get money for it.

There needs to be more of a movement away from Reddit towards things like Lemmy.

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