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PSA

There was a comment a couple months ago now I think about people concerned that VPNs no longer worked in China.

I traveled in China for several weeks over the lunar new year last month and tested proton, Nord, astrill, and a few random small ones I found off the chinese-accessible internet via Baidu without a vpn, and all of them work fine with the exception of one rabbit one that stated it refused to work in China.

But if anyone had any lingering concerns about the viability of using a VPN in China, they all worked fine, and the three big ones I mentioned worked fine all day every day, the smaller ones disconnected after an hour or so and then you would have to reconnect.

But they all worked, even over the holidays when the government is supposed to crack down on VPNs.

Right now there's a party committee going on for a few days so vpns are supposed to be shut off, but my friend is using a VPN in China and sent me messages from Gmail, which is inaccessible in China without a VPN, to let me know that they're still working.

Corollary PSA, my tickets from NY to Hong Kong were 274 bucks last month one-way, so prices are pretty crazy low right now, or at least they were several weeks ago.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have no intentions on ever visiting that place, but thanks.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Miss out on visiting a shithole country that treats their citizens like animals? Yeah I'm good.

Danm shame too cause it's a really beautiful country. But I rather not visit a place controlled by a government that censors the internet, will throw you in a prison camp if you point out that Xi Jinping looks like Winnie The Pooh (which he absolutely does), and tries to pretend that the tiananmen square massacre never happened.

Also you can't legally mention any of these words or phrases if you live there:

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

"it's a really beautiful country" - yes, you'll miss out on that part.

20 percent of humans live there. So your experience and understanding of humanity will always be missing a significant portion of comprehension.

Which country do you live in that doesn't have a history of unconstitutionally jailing its citizens?

Let's talk about the history of genocide in that country, the internet censorship and its prison camps.

I don't know where you pulled that list, but it's amazing you could be wrong on so many terms when it's so easy to use a search engine.

Honestly admit why you aren't expanding your worldview of humanity rather than couching your limited understanding in shallow, hypocritical prejudice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

But it's still ilegal to use them for normal chinese people as far as I know, and it can be selectively enforced if convinient for the ones in power.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yes, that's correct afaik.

I will throw in the caveat that I know Chinese people who have used them for 15 years without any problem.

I think it's only likely to be enforced in a political enemy kind of way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

thanks for this. My friend is looking for best VPN to purchase as is moving to China at the end of the month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh cool. Specifically, Astrill and proton worked fine as of April, although it would be smart to get the programs on at least one device or have the apks on file before they head over there because it's difficult to download them from within the Chinese net.

If necessary, there's a VPN they can search for on Baidu within china called green VPN; that one will at least sporadically work and allow your friend to download their choice of more robust options.