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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Looks pretty similar to the Scion xD from a few years back. I feel like Toyota really dropped the ball by giving up on that product line rather than converting it into their electric line. Scion was designed to appeal to a younger market and they are who is going to buy low cost electric cars.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Kinda just looks like a Chevy Bolt

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And if GM doesn’t turn around and refresh the Bolt, then Byd is going to eat their market share for lunch. The Equinox EV was not a good replacement.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

It's discontinued. They fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Too bad neither of them have rabid fans like pokemon that will overlay the 3d model and try to claim they stole the design

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I feel like Toyota really dropped the ball by giving up on that [Scion] product line rather than converting it into their electric line.

You're probably right. It's really surprised and unimpressed me me that Toyota has taken such an anti-electric stance. They should have been ahead of the curve, but instead, they've lobbied the governments of every country to not shift to EVs. Screw those guys.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are going to be a lot of bloody noses and some outright deaths in the auto market within the next decade. Japanese manufacturers better shape up soon or else they're going to be reduced to regional manufacturers. Nissan was an early leader, but has fallen behind, the rest aren't even trying yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Japanese manufacturers better shape up soon

I'm still waiting on plug in hybrid Subarus. I think the hybrid Crosstrek is their only option for that and it's bloody expensive.

One of my friends bought a Ford Maverick (pickup) hybrid, and the damn thing gets 10 better mpg than a Subaru Outback...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

the damn thing gets 10 better mpg than a Subaru Outback...

This is often the problem with hybrids. You'll really drive it long enough for it to make sense.

I've done the math on several different models and assuming your drive as much as the typical American it can take 10+ years.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"This imported Seagull wasn’t made to pass U.S. crash standards"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah. That's my biggest question mark with these BYDs. Oh they're made dirt cheap in unregulated markets? Definitely going to see some Li-Ion explosions in the near future.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

and 11 grand doesnt include the cost of trying to import one, either.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Americans love to buy cheap Chinese stuff, I bet these BYD cars will succeed.. the only thing it's they have to pay double at Amazon or triple if it's Apple brand.

Cheap not equal to bad quality, just equal to production cost/sale price.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Not necessarily. Tesla still has massive profit margins on every model. They have a lot of wiggle room on price if competition ever arrives.