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There is some Tesla brigade working hard to remove everything from the internet that makes them look bad. (lemmy.world)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The last couple days I've noticed every post that shows Tesla not looking good, has been removed from some higher directive. Not deleted by OP.

and yesterday an OP tried at least twice to post an article about Tesla factory ordering $16,000 worth of pies from a small independently-owned Silicon Valley bakery, owned by a sweet hard-working lady who worked overtime all night and had to go out and buy more ingredients to get the order finished in time, only for Tesla to call up the next morning and cancel the order just as the pies were about to be delivered to Tesla. As of press time, that lady lost $16,000 on that order but hopefully Tesla came back and made up for it.

The OP posted that article twice because the first one had been removed, then I tried to comment on the second one and it had been removed also.

There seems to be some Tesla brigade working hard to remove everything from the internet that makes them look bad.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 8 months ago (4 children)

How does cancelling a pie order at delivery mean that you don’t pay? You try to cancel a dental appointment in less than 48hrs and you still get charged for that appointment

[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good luck sending Elon the bill when you can barely get the richest man on Earth to pay rent for Twitter's headquarters.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Real estate is one thing, but small claims court over unpaid goods and services provided is another.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Depends on the terms of the contract...

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, apparently, because it was some small business owner, she only invoiced the order, and didn’t have some elaborate no cancellation policy in a contract for an order that size. It’s terribly unfortunate, but she probably should’ve known better (as a freelancer, myself, I once had to learn this very lesson the hard way, although it did not cost me nearly so much). I guarantee she’ll never ever make that mistake again, but, sadly, it may be because she is now going out of business.Tesla are such shit for doing this to her, and the very least they could do is pay for their order.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

The irony here is that they missed payment - she called them about that, and they asked her if she could increase the order…. And she did.

Like, they already missed payment, don’t put more at risk.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@FuglyDuck that's a tactic described in the 19th century novel Vanity Fair for evading payment. If your dressmaker sends you a bill then immediately order more dresses.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is.

It's also a super common thing. Which is why it's important to learn how to say "no",

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@FuglyDuck Definitely. Or even just to make that yes conditional on the client paying their earlier invoice first.

I learned that the hard way myself.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Eh, if she really wanted to take it to court I'm relatively sure her case is sound. A reasonable man knows you cannot cancel such a large order of perishable goods on short notice. She probably had her own reasons, whether lack of savvy, a belief the media campaign would serve her better, or maybe even just that she doesn't want to go to court.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

yeah, well, that’s all fine and good if she could afford a good lawyer to take up her case, but she’s financially screwed because of this and is already struggling to even keep her business open. rich people can afford to just sue everyone who makes them mad, but small business owners like this lady who went out on a limb for this huge order and got screwed may not be able to afford to shell out the money it would cost to engage in a lengthy lawsuit with the legal powers of Tesla.

so, what the law allows her to do and what she is practically capable of doing are probably two very different things in terms of her being able to seek legal remedy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

If not, over the course of decades, every one of those pies needs to go in a Tesla C-level face.

Slowly, steadily, inexorably, randomly.

Make them fear to turn any corner on the street. Make them see pies in their dreams.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Depends on the location, some places would have considered the purchase a contract of itself.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean how does Twitter not pay rent?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Cancel the standing order, put the wrong figure on a cheque

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My guess is someone very wealthy and/or used to doing large scale business just didn’t realize what a big number that is to normal people.

Or has never prepared food in their life.

Or they’re used to ordering like pallets of mountain dew or whatever and decided to go with fresh food instead.

I don’t know. I feel like this falls under “moral incompetence” or something. I doubt it’s a deliberate attempt to screw her over, but it’s also not really acceptable. They should be ashamed.

I really hope whoever made this fuckup is questioning how out of touch they’ve become.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The story posted twice and removed by mods, were because he broke the rules. First he posted on c/technology when it has nothing to do with tech. Then he posted on c/news with a headline complaining that it was removed, where it's against the rules to change the headline. So this has nothing to do with being silenced, but everything to do with not respecting the subs he posted to.
The exact same article was posted again, but with correct headline, and has not been taken down.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Aye, Thank you for noticing the issue and explaining. I keep wondering why my post keeps getting up votes. I was in some sort of conspiracy theory mindset when I wrote it 🤷🏻‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

You should edit your OP to update it with this information.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This explanation is grounded but I just want to point out that over the last 4 months I have blocked several Musk subs and a couple of Tesla subs. All of which were pumping out their respective subjects as spam everyday...

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Reason the thread complaining about the pie post being taken down was removed from this c:

reason: Using this instant as a platform for complaints against the actions of other mods

The top comment in that thread describes the reason it was removed originally.

A constant stream of meta whining sucks. Doesn't need to be some pro-Tesla conspiracy to dislike that.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. And this is Lemmy, the modlogs are public. People always want to believe things are a conspiracy instead of logically considering more plausible reasons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You sure try modlogs are public? Some already use the name “mod” to hide their own mod profiles when doing actions and it’s trivial to setup admin actions to remove posts / comments without listing them in the modlog, while I agree it’s better than nothing it’s still up to each individual instance to decide what they give price of their admin / mod actions.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago (5 children)

The pie story kept getting removed because OP was posting it to irrelevant communities.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hear me out. Perhaps it's a heavy handed mod or the community who is tired of Tesla posts full stop. Or Elon Musk posts, which tbh is kind of fair especially on places like the tech community. Musk does a lot of things to stay in the news cycle to stay relevant and a lot of people are fatigued about it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think that sort of thing should be decided by the community with the up/down vote buttons.

Or if the Mods wants to implement a policy to ban certain content then that could be added to the Rules for posting. That would be fine as people that want that kind of content can create their own community for it.

Moderation policies should be transparent and not used to veto anything that displeases a mod.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That pie post is one post up from this one, on my feed......

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Which instance are we talking about. Was this all on lenmyworld or elsewhere? Was it all in one community? Did it happen here?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

I can't remember the last time I read a positive news story about Tesla. Maybe the mods simply just are tired of the contant spam about Elon's every single action.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is entirely subjective - I haven’t gone around counting things up - but I’ve noticed both more pro-Tesla and pro-SpaceX posts and increased arguments on the anti-Musk posts. It seemed (on lemmy) to be coming from the same small number of accounts, so it could just be an enthusiastic handful of fanboys.

If one of them became a mod, that might explain it. They were very active in the Tesla and SpaceX subs with multiple articles posted within minutes of each other within the past couple of days.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Probably just fanboys. I hate playing the shill but have certainly responded to unreasonable hatred and wrong criticism. There’s plenty of criticism to go around, even if you stick to valid stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That may be true but I'm in the market for a car right now and one thing Tesla cannot hide is how many used ones are for sale and how cheap they are compared to sticker price after a year or two.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Wonder why though? Shitty build quality?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's probably a range of factors.

My own feelings are not indicative of market trends (because I'm a bit weird about things) but a few years ago teslas had some kind of appeal.

I guess I just hadn't realised how much of an ass musk is.

That situation has changed though. I would be legit embarrassed to drive one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Same. I suspect there's a lot of that going on. The excitement was ruined by Musk being such a dangerous and creepy weirdo.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Some people are not a fan of the internal cameras recording you at all times that send footage back to Tesla.

https://insideevs.com/news/496449/tesla-in-car-camera-privacy/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuuuuuuck that. That's just stupid to pay for that.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

he isn't just the biggest troll in history, he is also the idol of all other trolls

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I'm starting to wonder if the trolls are actually trolls that through selective breeding started to look more human like over time

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Tesla is a massive stock pumping Ponzi scheme that just happens to have a poorly ran car company attached to it. People need to realize what the goal of Tesla marketing is really about. It will be remembered as one of the great investment scams of our time.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I was driving around doing errands and passed by that pie place. I was all "Hey! Is that the famous pie place now?" Yup, sure enough. The shop was closer then I thought. Best of luck to them!

I remember modest coffee had something like that happen and bought a box of beans to help them out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Dude it’s been going on for 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So normal internet marketing machine is working as planned?

Makes you wonder about times you have looked at reddit for a review of an item and haven't seen negative comments.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

At this point we are in the situation where PR companies that are pro and against Musk are fighting eachother in public spaces in the hopes that both brainwash as many people as possible, into their narrative. Nobody can tell the truth anymore, we're in that period now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How’s that “fULL sELf dRiviNg” coming along that their valuation was supposedly based on?

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