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An attorney representing E. Jean Carroll has indicated the journalist could sue Donald Trump for a third time, as the former president continues to speak about her client publicly.

Speaking on MSNBC's Inside With Jen Psaki on Monday night, Shawn Crowley, an attorney for Carroll, responded to the frontrunner for the GOP presidential nomination telling supporters at a Michigan rally on Saturday that he had not done anything wrong to Carroll, whom he claimed he did not know, and that lawsuits against him were "unfair."

In January, a New York City jury ordered that the former president must pay $83.3 million in damages to the former Elle columnist, for statements made in 2019. He said she was lying about allegations that he sexually assaulted her inside a Manhattan department store dressing room in the 1990s. That amount includes $7.3 million in compensatory damages, $11 million for reputational repair, and $65 million in punitive damages. He has repeatedly denied all wrongdoing and has said he will appeal the verdict.

Trump was previously ordered to pay Carroll $5 million in damages in May in another civil defamation trial stemming from a denial he made about her claims in 2022. He is appealing that decision and has set aside $5.55 million with the Manhattan Court as part of that process. Newsweek contacted a representative for Trump by email to comment on this story.

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[–] [email protected] 286 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Carroll found an IRL infinite money glitch

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Hard to get blood from a turnip.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not really? Trump uses banks, and banks will freeze assets to a court order and turn them over.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That only applies to people who aren't rich. Trump is going to use the Alex Jones playbook of bankruptcy, shell companies, and "but I can't survive on anything less than 80k a month"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

No? Alex Jones's assets were not public, so they were easier to hide. Trump has many public assets, and the Trump Org is a very public (although privately held) company.

There's already a judge in control of the Trump Org, so they can't move any money without approval. The State of NY is literally holding him by the balls, whether he pays up or not.

Banks do not help people whose assets are already frozen. It would be obvious and they would get a massive fine, and the recipient bank would send the money back (if they're in the US). Plus whichever bank employee made the transfer would be fired.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

In this case I don't think so. Trump has low liquidity but many assets. Even if he dies she can get paid from his estate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He doesn't have any money to pay her

[–] [email protected] 77 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Every appeal ends up putting actual money in escrow. He doesn't have enough money to actually appeal this last decision + the new York fraud decision.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

Doesn't matter. Still sue.

[–] [email protected] 189 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's amazing. Do it.

I want her to drag him to court over and over. It will be, as Trump likes to say, "a beautiful thing, folks. A beautiful thing."

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

So much winning!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

People are saying, it's a beautiful thing.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 8 months ago (2 children)

While I applaud her for her bravery, I also worry because of what his lunatic supporters have been known to do to their perceived "enemy."

Remember, they think he's literally the second coming of Christ.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 8 months ago (2 children)

She literally doesnt care. The juice is worth the squeeze.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How have I never heard that phrase before? I love it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I just remember it from Girl Next Door lol

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The juice is worth the squeeze.

what a wonderful saying. personally i like "[it's just] sauce for the goose" (as a follow-up to/implying the phrase "his goose is cooked"), but what you said is seems to fit better here.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They thought the same about Hitler and an entire generation of Germans and Austrians lived the remainder of their lives in silent shame when it all fell apart.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

One big difference I think.

Nazi Germany lost in outright combat against an enemy they had always said they could beat. They were decimated and many of their sycophants were killed in battle.

Unless Trump and his followers start an actual armed rebellion and get put down, I don't see how they end up ashamed.

Beating Trump in court, while it needs to be done, allows all of his followers to keep saying, "See? We told you the deep state was out to get him."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Unless Trump and his followers start an actual armed rebellion

Those people are out there. It's one of the main reasons I left Florida. A truck load of guys showed up outside my polling place in 2020 with AR's and they were asking everyone in line who they planned on voting for/if they were voting for Trump. The cops were called and they told the people who called that "as long as they weren't brandishing their weapons or threatening anyone" that nothing could be done. This was in the parking lot of a public library during voting; the cops chose to not do anything.

"Stand back and stand by" is all these people think about. They aren't making a move until Trump tells them to, but there's a non-zero chance that they start getting violent, similar to "the troubles" in Ireland in the 90's.

And our legal system fails us every single day Trump is a free man getting to flap his gums. We all know what we watched happen. We heard what he said, we saw what the aftermath was... If it was you or I, we'd be in solitary confinement yesterday.

There's a long damn time until November and I'm fearful, but there's not much I can do to change anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I work with a dipshit that keeps giving everyone shit for spending their money on anything besides ammo and guns. BECAUSE OF THE UPCOMING WAR!!!!! This guy is a fucking lunatic and dead serious. He would have been at Jan 6th but the boss didn't approve his vacation time. Keeping my mouth shut and not provoking this prick is close to the hardest thing I've ever done. Fuck these clowns.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If maga-country is paying for it, might as well get that money again and again.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey, most of us are also trying to grift MAGA folks.

We can't let Trump have it all.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So he's actually on her side grifting his own people for her gain.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago

Going for the hat trick? I like your style.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's like she found a faulty slot machine that won't stop putting out.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At what point is trump just doing what he wants and not paying? Can he go to debtors prison or something?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

New York will seize & start auctioning off his properties. He can't even appeal without putting the damages fine in escrow.

I read yesterday that Trump only has ~$550M in liquid assets & $50M of that he can't touch without it automatically recalling a loan that he currently cannot pay.

I'd like to point out the last part is no one's problem but Trump's & whatever bank gave him that loan.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Not even Trump's problem, I'm afraid. As J. Paul Getty famously said-

If you owe the bank $100, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.

That's true for $50 million as well.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

thing is: he doesn't owe it to a bank-- he owes it via judgements to Carroll and to the People of the State of New York, and, on their behalf, the State of New York will start seizing Trump's assets and auctioning them off to cover the judgements.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Depends on how the loan is secured. If he put up some of his property as collateral then the bank can just seize it and it's not their problem then.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but the property he put up saying is worth 50 million to secure the loan is probably only worth 3 million 🤣

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Then they sue him for lying about the value of the collateral. One big oroboros of lawsuits until Trump has nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Pretty dumb quote.

The bank has an army of lawyers who sure as shit gonna make it your problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (9 children)

It hasn't been a problem for Trump before. He's defaulted on many loans.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Its like a gift that keeps on giving!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Except he never pays

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago

Don't forget to bring an extra set of forms to file on the way out, when he does it again in this next trial!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

As long as there’s evidence and damages cover the attorney fees she can keep this going.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

President Loser continuing his losing streak.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

lol sure that bitch into the ground

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bitch-Tits needs to shut. His. Mouth.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm cool with .73 cents out of each dollar he gets donated going to others, I'd like him to talk more so he goes bankrupt before the July estimate 👍

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

That works for me, too. If it MUST talk, drain it of resources and money until it withers up and blows away.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago
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