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Seems like they are under attack again, will those people never stop? I feel sorry for the admin team.

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 1 year ago (15 children)

This is why we need users to spread to more servers and create communities in them. If lemmy.world goes down that shouldn't result in half of lemmyhub disappearing.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Yes! I tried with a niche topic like fallout but can’t get people to move over from the Lemmy world community.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

I’m more of a commenter and less of a poster, but I moved away from world as my primary instance last week. Part to spread the load, part to just be able to browse.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And it's back up again! Kudos to the team!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Down again it seems. People seriously need to switch away from lemmy.world. Every single time it goes down so much content goes down with it. It's annoying.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I did this early on after realizing my mistake, promptly moved to vlemmy.net which after a couple weeks went totally mia.

Moved again... It's a toss-up though. I want an instance big enough to stay updated, and have an active community, but not turn into .world or vlemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We're not allowed to have nice things.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Thankfully, other instances are still up and allow us to talk about it.

Back in the days, when Reddit or Twitter were down, it was down for the whole userbase.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and we can do something about our own instances. Depending on your reverse proxy there's a couple options.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Those guys can't catch a break. By whom or why are they getting attacked anyway?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Probably by some ground against the Fediverse or lemmy specifically.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

This single post :
https://lemmy.world/post/2874044
https://lemmy.ca/post/2904207
...has a comment from an hexbear user who thinks this is very funny. (hidden from here because we defederated them)

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's been this way for weeks, actually. I haven't seen a graph of the uptime, but I'm sure one would look extremely ugly, based on my own user experience.

This right here is an alt, and despite the fact that I don't prefer to comment from it, since I won't necessarily check in soon to see replies, it's seeing some heavy use.

The attacks a few weeks ago weren't a one-off, they never stopped. It seems down maybe half the time or so?

One of the many ways we (all of Lemmy) are not quite ready for the mainstream yet, we still have basic technical/security issues to resolve. Soon, though.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It was always going to happen but an instance being the defacto default for Lemmy is a bad thing.

There really needs to be a tool to help people pick an instance, but even then people would just flock to the general instances like .world anyway

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Myself and another developer are working on something we think will solve this:

OP: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726 TLDR: Automatic User Distribution

Whenever someone goes to the sign up page, for example, on Lemmy.world, we:

  • look at the recommender list
  • find the server that is most under capacity
  • have a very large iframe with "Sign up for Lemmy (using [under capacity server here])"
  • have a small "No, I want to sign up specifically on Lemmy.world" option
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I also think instances just need to have more sane urls. It sounds silly but like it or not branding does matter. Instances like beehaw and sh.itjust.works just rub me the wrong way during first impressions. Even some of my friends who I've tried to introduce to Lemmy are just like..."what the fuck kinda website are you making me go to?" I am not surprised that lemmy.world is big, partly because the URL actually sounds official.

We also need super-communities that pull in content from multiple communities/instances, better multi-instance search, and a way to migrate between instances before the masses will be okay with smaller instances.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It makes sense that general purpose instances would have the most users. I'm not a programmer so while I could still register there why would I pick programmer.dev?

The bigger issue I had in picking an instance was just in understanding the differences. I think it would help if instances advertised their stance on defederation, moderation, etc... to help people make a decision (or even to see that lemmy.world may be more similar to some other instances than they might think).

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What does not kill you, makes you stronger. The only thing these script kiddies are doing is strength training the world admins.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (10 children)

lemmy.world has been so unstable for that I decided to switch to another instance. That's the beauty of the Fediverse though.
I setup my own Uptime Kuma Monitor for lemmy.world just for fun.. the statistics are crazy

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oof that's brutal. Didn't realize it was that bad.

There's a lot of small instances wanting to become medium/big instances and share the load, but people need to show a bit of initiative and join them. I just made this account, and here's a list of a few other small servers with room to spare. YMMV but these all look pretty solid at a glance.

discuss.online lemmy.fmhy.net lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz lemmy.tf thelemmy.club lemmy.myserv.one

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its really unfortunate. Im working on setting up my own personal instance right now. Im really grateful for all the work Lemmy.world has done, but im just getting tired of not being able to use Lemmy maybe 1/8th of the time I open the app.

Just a +1 for decentralized social media. The fact that I can just set up my own instance when im not 100% happy with the one im currently on is awesome.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think lemmy.world is too large for the health of the fediverse. A nasty incident which takes it down permanently could "kill" Lemmy as a whole. Perhaps a sign up stop is in order.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I moved to a different instance about a month ago, after lemmy.world got hacked. I haven't had any issues on Midwest.social. I suggest other people do the same if they want Lemmy to be feasible in the long term. Get the fuck off Lemmy.world.

Here is a list of instances sorted by user count if anyone wants to move: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Attitudes like this are much worse for the health of the Fediverse, IMO.

A popular instance with users and content? Kill it immediately, we can't risk people actually using the Fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Instead of blocking sign-ups we can have Lemmy's sign up automatically recommend other servers.

Another developer and I already have a PR in development for it.

Here's the idea in more detail: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Are they suffering DDOS attacks? They might need something like Cloudflare to combat this. Maybe some kind of reverse-proxy if the attack isn't super massive.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Already running Cloudflare.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

sh.itjust.works to the rescue

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world Is down, but Lemmy as a whole is still up and running. This is why I like the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's getting really annoying. Is there an mobile friendly way to migrate my account from lemmy.world to lemmy.zip?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can always have multiple accounts

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I guess the issue is to importing the huge list of blocked instances to the new account

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, I don't think there is anything on mobile yet. The best tool for this is LASIM on desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Hopefully more will join smaller instances.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

They want to put out the fire. Let us show them the strength of the Hydra. Cut off one head and a thousand more shall take its place. We all remember what happened when they tried to end the piratebay.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah who are these fucks? Whats their damage? Somebody oughta go knock some sense into them

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's been a rough two days, but I see a clearing in the sky 😋 !


Lemmy.World status

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Exactly for that reason I have created a second account on lemm.ee.

There is even a nice Python script to propagate your subscriptions and block lists to one or more other accounts.

Find it here: https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why are people attacking a msg board?

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