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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Who gives a flying fuck what "Trump's advisor" thinks, says, or proposes? Trump isn't an elected official right now so kick rocks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. Plus the whole "pay up" thing is a red herring; there are no membership dues for being in NATO, they just agree to spend two percent of their GDP on defense (which they don't all do).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The 2 percent is also a goal. A spending guideline if you will. Not a hard demand to be a member.

There's also widespread confusion over what kind of spending counts toward the 2 percent goal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

And just to wrap it all together, the money plaes in comparison to the value of having a treaty at all. The absolute stupidest thing you could do is blow it up just because some countries haven't hit rheir spending targets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I think he's talking about if Trump is elected. And there's a real risk that's actually gonna happen.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

NATO members don't pay NATO.

NATO members pledge to maintain their military @ 2% of their GDP so they can keep up their NATO commitments.

Ever the piece of shit Russian mobster, Trump is trying to turn NATO into a protection racket.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Sorry, you didn't subscribe to NATO+, so you get un-skippable ads in your radar screens. Hopefully nobody fires any missiles while you watch 3 of the exact same 15 second ads for RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

"Trump advisor" doesn't sound like it means anything. Trump doesn't listen to experts or anyone for that matter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There's actually a related idea that I unironically and dead seriously think would be great: I propose a new tiered system for Trump advisors who want to benefit from the nice things that civil society gives us all; police, courtrooms, judges, rule of law, etc (in addition to clean water and food inspection and all the rest of it).

Here's how the tiered system works: You either agree that you and everyone else is subject to the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States, or else any crackpot who feels like kicking you in the balls or hitting you with a bat on your way to vote to impeach Hunter Biden or whatever the fuck, can do it, and you can't get mad or ask the legal system to punish them in any way, because you were the one who wouldn't agree that the rule of law is a good thing.

I think it'd be an elegant system. Anyone who talks about activist judges, or the witch hunt going on against Trump and how grand juries are always corrupt and I should be able to steal the election and fuck anyone who tries to stop me... bam. Right in the balls, any time someone feels like buying a ticket to Washington to do it.

I'm not advocating violence by any means. It would need to be a consenting arrangement where they had to agree on the record that laws and judges are officially a bad thing. But I feel like if that could be the system, it'd be a nice wake up call for any of these guys who currently get to have it both ways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Didn't Rudy say it would be trial by combat? LFG.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

NATO members, on lower tier, start to block USA from conducting flights, exercises, and weapons storage.

You can't have tiered membership in military allies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Not to mention larger countries like Germany, Italy, maybe even the Nordics might all of a sudden see a requirement for having their own nukes instead of relying on the US nuclear umbrella.

That will make us all safer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

If NATO is not offering its full promises, these "lower tier" NATO members will quickly find new allies in the form of the petrostates and China instead.

Trump doesn't care. He thinks the tinpots around the world love him and will support him.

He's right, of course, but not for the reasons he thinks he is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Exactly, then import tariffs on goods etc. then America becomes an isolated theocracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Republicans are honorary Russians at this point. Trump has big plans to help Putin and that shouldn't surprise anyone. It'd be cool if they all cared half as much about America.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could you imagine what their Saint Reagan would think if he heard that Trump was telling a Russian dictatorship run by a former KGB agent to attack European countries?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

"Oh, Russia is now a capitalist oligarchy? I always liked them anyway!" - Ronald "Shitbag" Reagan

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

So no more pork barrel exports to Europe and import tax on iPhones of 66.6%

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

NATO Basic Membership: Free, one country only per account, get bombarded by ads for paid NATO tiers

NATO Paid with Ads: $5.99 a month, two countries per account, one less ad for paid NATO tiers a year

NATO Ad-free: $15.99 a month, two countries per account, no ads

NATO “USA Number 1” Premium Membership: $99.99 a month, three countries per account, no ads, sloppy kisses from Donald himself