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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (8 children)

is anyone is just so fucking done with the children of immigrants making fun of their parent? like theres a whole genre of content online of poc kids making deeply racist jokes bout their own parents. mocking their accents, complaining about their English, making jokes defending beating children, getting on fucking tv to defend these obvious racist jokes with. "im not making fun of blank, im mocking my parents who happen to be just lazy caricatures" and "how can i be racist aganist my own race?" while putting on modern day minstrel shows. or worst, irl talking shit about them right in front of them because they dont speak English. I hope that white approval was worth it scumbags.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

It started off innocent but, like most fun internet trends, quickly became self-hating and cruel. The videos I hate most are the ones that portray abuse as cultural traditions to be proud of. Chancla memes turned into weird poc feeling superior for being violently abused by their immigrant parents and/or having the media portray their cultures as inherently violent. I get so pissed off when they conflate white American culture with softness and overly doting families because (a) it’s actually super dysfunctional and not at all kind nor healthy, (b) abuse exists in every culture and (c) no parent of any group should be beating their kids.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

Yes, everyone I know who consumes content like that gives the vibes that they hate the place that they and I grew up. They only moderately tolerate it for the potential in their careerism.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

There is a line between sharing and discussing the shared experiences of children of immigrants and being racist, and it is often crossed. It isn't for me to police it for other groups. But there's a difference between discussing the awkwardness of attending your parents immigration process as a translator, and doing minstrel bits about the way your parents say certain words.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When im in a racist accent competition and an asian-diaspora "comedian" enters

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Honestly, a lot of EM and BIPOC are racist against other EM and BIPOC.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Indeed.

At times, people like Korean comic et Uncle Roger need to be detained and sent for a criticism session...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

That shit is so gross. I don't want to feel too old, but the trend of posting embarrassing parent stuff was unthinkable to me as a teenager. It was more for fear of my own embarrassment or stigmatization, but this seems so much more callous.

It's disturbing to see kids and young adults incentivized to use their families for content like this. And they don't even see it as opening the door for people to reproduce the racist behavior on them. They aren't going to stop and wonder if you have an accent or belief system. Folks will just walk up and say vile racist shit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

lmao

My parents never hit me growing up, and my best friend (who was white) was routinely cursed out and spanked by his mom when I was at his house

There's also that classic vid where the white kid's dad runs over all his Xbox games with a lawnmower

To be honest I have a hard time imagining most Indian or East Asian parents actually hitting their children or freaking out especially hard

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There's also that classic vid where the white kid's dad runs over all his Xbox games with a lawnmower

That reminds me

If the kkkrakkas do it, it's just a minority

If the POCs do it, that's their cultural oddity...

Also, I'm in the same boat as you as well... my parents weren't exactly soft but they weren't strict about doing this activity and that...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

yeah, it's dumb

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I'm a child of immigrants and I've never done this.

Yeah, it sucks though.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I have been learning about black people in STEM on my own as I am a black people in STEM. There are tons and tons of black engineering big brains throughout history. I'm also encouraging my cousin in university to go botany. He told me likes organic chemistry and stuff but wants to transfer into computers because they are more profitable. Trying to convince him that he's probably better-off learning the thing he actually likes rather than the thing he thinks will give him money. The real secret is he's going to be broke either way, might well be broke and like the stuff you leaned about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Trying to convince him that he's probably better-off learning the thing he actually likes rather than the thing he thinks will give him money."

Yeah, and I think I have the same thing with my own brother. He's likely Autistic like I am, but he hasn't graduated college and he's just past 30. He wants desperately to get a good job to live by, but I want to tell him to not be so hard on himself and try to find something he genuinely enjoys.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

He wants desperately to get a good job to live by, but I want to tell him to not be so hard on himself and try to find something he genuinely enjoys.

I feel that man. I totally understand him trying to get some skills/a job that will provide that sort of material comfort and stability, but at the same time I think the sort of mental costs and taxation on the soul of a man. We all hate the fact we MUST have a job (thanks liberalism!), but there are certain small joys like being interested in the thing you do.

In my case for example, I'm a computer dork but I genuinely happen to like computers and shit. To be totally honest I'm very lucky "THE MARKET" deems it to worthy of a decent salary, however being honest I'd probably be a computer dork even if the the pay wasn't as good as it is (it's also on the decline with all these tech layoffs, and it's getting hard to find a job in the tech industry). Again, it's totally luck on my part, but I would encourage anyone to figure what they like first and focus their education on that. Some katz like computers, others maybe history, others maybe arts, whatever.

I totally understand folks concerned by their very real material needs, but I would imagine the toll on your heart and mind is very high learning something you don't care about purely for stability

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I sort of like that my local grocery store has a "foreign" food section. I love my middle-mexi-thainese section. Why yes the couscous should be next to the sushi rice, and the salsa and siracha do go together.
The fact that it's sandwiched between the spices and the sweet baking goods means they have made my shopping very easy.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Western 'multiculturalism' in a liberal nutshell...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Of all the indignities of western capitalism, I can deal with the tahin being next to the tofu. Since I'm a monster who'll eat my tofu scramble with hummus and chili oil.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This reminds me of this quote when Capitalism WAS historically progressive:

Specifically...

It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation.

But imagine that, but with food

For example, remember Italian cuisine... seems like it wasn't ancient at all?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's almost funny that the creation of "Authentic Italian food" is contemporaneous with the futurist movement trying to get Italians to eat autoclaved rice with iron shavings and perfume

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I kinda have no problem with multiculturalism; I want to be around as many cultures as possible, tbh.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I realize it kinda came off wrong, eh... I could explain later...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, no, you're fine, I figured that you were offhandedly broaching a complicated topic in the Western context.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

When I think of multicultural, we also have to think of local-born multiculturalism countries like Yugoslavia (eg. Bosniak + Croat + Serb + Albanian) or Indonesia (eg. many indigenous ethnic groups et languages) as well,

So it's bit funny to see multicultural to refer to such things in the west

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Oh yeah, I think I know what you're referring to.

The West (at least North America) is increasingly, at least, multi-racial.

But multicultural? Truly? Not sure about that one.

If anything, cultures get destroyed when they meet contact with American shores... at least, more often than not, it seems.

There's nothing really done to preserve certain cultures or histories, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm getting better at talking about my experiences as a black person without shame. Or rather, I'm better seeing white discomfort and continuing with what I'm saying.

It's realizing I'm not being the problem or trauma dumping or whatever. My experience is valid and just because someone else doesn't understand that I need to consider more for my personal safety doesn't make me a downer. I'm not the one who should feel bad when I bring up that something is racist.

It doesn't feel like much to me, but I'm starting to realize it's not me, it's the white liberals in my life.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh yeah fuck their feelings tbh. These days I only hang with white people who aren't fragile.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, don't hang out with white people that bristle at you mentioning race.

White and non-white people should learn to get used to it at this point; it's a huge topic and we don't stop being Latino or Black or whatever at the drop of a hat.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Talk about it whenever you want.

Nobody should stop you.

Edit: I mean, I'm supporting this of you, is what I'm trying to say.

Sorry if the original comment came off as rude; I mean that, as someone that is non-white or Black, you should definitely speak up whenever you want or need to as someone of your race and maybe give a perspective from that angle.

stalin-approval

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wish more white people (and frankly immigrants like my parents) knew that part of white supremacy was preventing Black folks from preserving any sort of generational wealth as possible.

Things like the GI Joe bill weren't just harmful because it denied loans to POC but that it prevented POC from being able to build wealth at the rate that their White peers were doing.

My parents have pretty much bought into the Black pathology racist myth because they think that the reason they were able to make it was because of their "hard work and focus on education."

Racism in South Asian immigrant culture is such a disheartening problem.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Tbh, I've seen South Asian immigrants also deal with racism so it's disheartening to always hear stuff like this.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Been getting hit a bit harder by my feelings of loneliness lately. Especially after I went to a sending off party for someone from work. Had an expectation that at least one or two of the people I talk with the most would be there and none showed up. It was a bit awkward. Not that it was that bad, but just felt a bit isolated.

Also just feel like I'm kind of just stuck in a routine all the time. Going out for a walk and taking some pictures kind helps just because it makes me think about something other than work, but I can't help but think about how so much of my life right now evolves around my workplace including what social interactions I have. And it finally just hit me while I was out on a walk yesterday that I just feel alone. Its not even like I live alone. I still live with my parents and brother, but I don't really have anyone that I feel comfortable talking about life with right now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Do you have any IRL friends currently?

Frankly, I would suggest looking around on Facebook or Instagram and looking for meet-up groups and clubs, but that's what I'm doing (with good success, it seems).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I have couple that I still text on occasion. The biggest problem is distance. They both live further away now so it's more difficult to find the time to hang out. I'm might just do what you suggested.

Joining a club is probably what got me through college. I got to meet people that I got along with that I otherwise probably wouldn't have met.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Happy lunar new year folks

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

We all love our Zhong1guo2ren2, don't we, fowks?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I just wanted to see what Latam folks think about the term "latinx" when it's used in popular academic writing (i.e. textbooks). My NATO geography textbook uses latinx but I always feel iffy since English doesn't have a concept of gendered nouns so "latino" or "latin american" or "latam" would also work. It's gotten a lot more common recently I feel.

btw latinx is basically used as just "all people from south of the border" in my textbook, no mention of Caribbean islanders or Brazilians or indigenous societies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean, you could use 'Latine' or 'Latines' as a more native spelling to the language... if a chud points it out as weird, ask them about "leche" and "las elecciones"

-- Tip from a Spanish-colonized Asian migrant... (I don't speak Spanish tho)

Edit: or you can adapt and not care about grammatical gender... as far as I can tell, it's not really sexist than it is more about differentiating words like "puerta" (door) or "puerto" (port)

or "politicas" (policies) et "politicos" (politicians)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Wow another week passed by. I will have mango curry later :3. Plus I plan to workout today...took a break because I was sick.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Mmmmm.... Mango curry...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Dear m Mayo Jewish person who got mad we don't sell kosher.

It's not racist to inconvenience you with nothing being kosher at a fast food place. It's anti semetic

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm cross-posting like crazy my posts to other instances to help promote Hexbear.

But I've noticed a few comments over time that would rather have me cool it with the cross-posting.

So I think that's what I'll do. I don't want to spam. I'll limit it to 4 or 5 tops and maybe promote on other websites.

As for the thread tax:

I'm still trying to re-learn Spanish after having forgotten it since I was a little child. I wonder if I can find a group of Latino/a in my area that are trying to do the same thing?

Well, it's worth a look, at least.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm majoring in Spanish right now! Maybe we could practice together? (I'm not Latin American though)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I'm trying to find others in my local area, but I'll consider it. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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