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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last I checked cars exist with more regulations than most heavy machinery. I don’t disagree with your position but this is a poor argument.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, my uncle has a back hoe and I don't think he's had any training on it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll chime in... I have a backhoe and I assure you I've never had any training.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Leave my mother out of this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

She'll be disappointed to miss out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty sure your uncle doesn't drive his back hoe 120km/h down a public road. Also atleast where I live back hoe equipped tractor needs to be licensed, driven by tractor licensed person to travel down public road. If it isn't so, it needs to be trailer loaded from work siteto another.

Also tycally to commercially operate heavy machine either industry regulation or just business sanity demands trained operators.

I would note, you don't need drivers license to drive a car on private closed road. Go crush oneself in car volt on private yard all one wants, the issue is untrained person driving on public road endangers others. That is why there is also demand for traffic insurance for the other parties damages, not ones own damage.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

You say that like theres some kinda regulations on heavy machinery

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what the "don't take when operating heavy machinery" labels on medications are referring to for most people, I'm not sure how many people actually realize that though, and that's a scary thought.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most people are like "oh that's fine it's not like I'm a pilot or a nuclear engineer." And then proceed to drive their car at 120 km/h on the highway.

Come to think of it, why not just make it crystal clear and say "don't drive when taking this medicine" on the label?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's what my melatonin pills say.

"Do not drive or use machinery for 5 hours after taking melatonin."

Although I follow the directions I swear the supplements are 95% placebo.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

To top it off, ebikes and escooters have speed limiters or are outright banned in many places, yet cars never have speed limiters in them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cars 100% have limiters on them. Required by law.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Fun fact: different places have different laws but the same internet!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

In what way?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Totally not required by law

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What law? There is no such law in either the US or Canada (US because the internet is generally US-Centric, Canada because that's where I am)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vehicles do have governors, but it's more about whats safe for the vehicle and its tire rating than road speeds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not all vehicles in North America have governors nor is it required by law.

Alot of Japanese cars do but that’s because they didn’t bother removing the governor that they use in Japan (190kph/118mph). Most American and European manufactured cars are limited by transmission or physics and not governors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

What are you asking for?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is to protect the engines. You can get a car up above 100mph easily enough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every car made has a speed limiter that's usually capped at the rated speed for the tires.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only ones I've seen with electronic limiters are usually sports cars and way above a reasonable highway speed, like 140+

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My old 90s beater had a governor at about 100mph. My current car's is 125. According to Bloomberg every car sold has a governor, but apparently I'm wrong on the reason. It's not the law but no insurance company will insure a new car that doesn't have one since the mid 90s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The 90s still was trailing off the Oil Crisis, trucks having 55 on the dash (and nothing more) was still commonplace.

Modern cars can still be insured without governor. A 2010s Fiesta still can hit its top speed of 135 (gear limited and not a governor).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm in the U.S., and I've never driven a car with one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Germany here: the speed limiter in regards to tires is a little sticker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Plus maybe a little warning in the cockpit that the speed limit has been exceeded

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

your car is capable of going over 100mph, the odds of you going far beyond that is very low unless you're a complete moron.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately there are an awful low of complete morons allowed to drive.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do cars (like other heavy machinery) not need a licence of some sort to use where you live?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's trivially easy to get a driver's license in US and Canada, and you don't need regular retesting.

So yes, but that's not the point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thought it said cats

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hot take i haven't seen anywhere else, I love it