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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Warning: This is a rant.

I don't really know how to describe it but the content isn't quite where reddit had been for me. Also the comments are kind of weird at times, like they type of person here doesn't quite seem as 'normal' as what I'm used to from reddit.

There's a lot more open source and privacy focused people and conversations. A lot of people seem to hate on big tech and big companies in a sort of toxic-ish feeling way to me (not to say the other relationship isn't toxic.. just saying). Random conversations go into: "omg your privacy is lost cause you used a Google service." Then we have the 'if we don't defederate with Meta the world ends' conversations. I personally would like to see what Meta does in the fediverse.. maybe it will make it more normalized..idk. Then the: "if your app isn't open source its awful and terrible for the world" people.

Like that stuff is all fine, but it just isn't quite my cup of tea.

These things remind me of that one person in my comp sci classes in college who I just couldn't stand talking to. He would try to make you feel like an idiot by trying to sound all self righteous and smart. (Honestly he would fail and would generally look like a dingus).

The bulk of the content that gets comments seem to be mostly meme atm. At least on all (7/10 of the current top for me are memes). I like my memes, but would like some more breadth/depth.

Like I hope Lemmy continues to grow and hope it gets better, but it leaves me missing reddit at the moment.

In a perfect world I wish reddit corp wasn't such assholes and this whole thing didn't happen the way it did.

I'm completely skipping the UI and stuff not being as familiar and the various outages/bugs/etc since that's to be expected with something at this stage.

Please don't hate me :) Just sharing my unpopular opinion. Though I genuinely wonder if others feel the same way.

/Rant

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Im thinking there will be another wave of users when the major 3rd party apps are ready. In the meantime, I am frustrated in the fact like my 4 favorite niche apps have like ghost towns for communities. That includes one that has like 2.4 million followers on Reddit.

I mean if there are so many tech people here why isn't there more discussion for instance in an Android Apps community on Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is understandable but also lemmy is so new you can't expect the number of community and user as reddit

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm missing some of the subreddits I used to frequent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Create them! Or search for them on https://lemmyverse.net/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

yeah me too, \ I hope this place grow big enough so we can have the lemmy communites for the niche subreddit for example I'm was /r/stocks on reddit and thier is stocks community here, but for somethign like /r/daytrading or /r/pennystocks or /r/AMD_Stock are not avalible here, but hopefully by time thier will be simillar communities here

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I think your assessment is spot on. I find a lot of such individuals, if not worse, in various posts. While I encourage redditors to migrate here, when they get here and see shit like what you describe, it's no surprise if they go back.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What you're experiencing I think is completely normal. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Reddit is mainstream, and Lemmy is not. Hypothetically, you might find, say, your plumber on Reddit, who casually browses in down time. The most normal user probably just uses a browser or the normal app; they may have very little or no knowledge about the reddit blackouts, what's happening, and why.

Maybe some users were using third party apps and know what happened, but if they don't care much about the reasons they might just stop using Reddit or settle with the native app. This category of users and the last are all probably making up a large part of the user base in general, and of the non-tech (normal?) Subreddits in particular.

The users who migrated to Lemmy by this point will be pretty much a reversal of Reddit's dynamic. The majority will be privacy/tech minded and have moved specifically in protest to Reddit's corporate/capitalist practices. They are here hoping to disrupt the norm and prove that we don't require a centralized power system to run social media.

Then there are probably a minority of users who are simply curious because they heard about an alternative and wanted to see what this is all about. A lot of these users probably don't stick around if they don't see the kind of stuff they want to see.

Out of any groups, only a small portion will provide content, and a slightly larger portion will take part in discussion. Memes are the easiest content to produce and to consume, so that's probably why they're so prevalent.

Personally I enjoy the conversation around privacy, FOSS, etc, but I do truly hope we'll start to see more of the normal communities develop here. Particularly I miss some of the creative writing communities which I know for sure haven't really transferred off of Reddit by this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And then there's a small subset who is tech adjacent, kind of understands what's going on, and is fed up with Reddit's CEO being a dick. 😅 I genuinely like Lemmy and try to understand the techy posts.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only thing I thought Reddit was for the last 5 or so years was shitposts and memes. Which is pretty much the same here atm. Maybe in time, it will be like the reddit I joined 10-11 years ago, and have genuinely good, unique content that isn't a shitpost or low-effort meme.

I know the niches are the key, but here's my problem: The things I am into aren't niche anymore. They used to be... But they are ever increasing into the mainstream, so the conversation (or lack thereof really) is the same in every space. 😩

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I circumvent the endless discussion about the platform by just sorting by Hot under "All". I'm totally with you though, there are some seriously insufferable people who meta-post about Lemmy crowding the front page. I just want to ignore that and see how it goes. If I don't like Threads or whatever, I can just move instances to one that blocks them. No big deal. I'm just trying to get my fix of conetct and connect with people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Just go ahead and block them if you want. I block a lot of the accounts that repost news articles that talk about Reddit’s latest shenanigans. I don’t care, I deleted my reddit account, our relationship is over.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I deleted my Account as soon as I learnt that Apollo would no longer work. I did continue to lurk on some subs until they wall went NSFW and I couldn't access them in a browser any more, but I was getting more into Lemmy and Mastodon, so I didn't really mind.

There is still one subreddit that I do miss; I had noticed some Astroturfing from commercial interests in the months leading upto the API price change, but I had just blocked those users and moved onto real user content.

I try to access it every few days to lurk, but it is always inaccessible without logging in.

I did manage to get into it this morning for a few minutes (Mods must have been doing some spring cleaning) and noticed that the content that I previously enjoyed was no longer being published. It was full of Astroturf, Ads and an occasional uninteresting post.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I missed Digg when I switched to Reddit back in 2011. It took a few years before I got comfortable there. I assume the same will happen here on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Reddit (overall and subreddit) culture and discourse always had an ebb and flow to it. Any off feelings about however you're accessing the Fediverse are both fair and not unlike the Reddit experience to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Completely agree. I really don't care about defederation stuff. If there was a big alternative to reddit with more content and users than here but was federated I would go there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I'm sorry, but what was even the point of this post? What have you accomplished by coming here and then complaining about the content here?

It seems like the root of the problem is that you're not really clear on why you're here in the first place. A lot of us are here because we're sick of corporate social media. For those of us that this applies to, we have seen what Reddit has done, we have seen what Meta has done, and we have decided we have had enough. Seems like you kinda just came here because of Reddit's API changes, and have not done any thinking about the broader trends this is indicative of with regards to the way tech companies operate and destroy friendly communities on the Internet like these. To me, they have shown that they see this group of users as a business opportunity and money they are missing out on, and they will do everything in their power to take advantage of it.

If you have so much faith in these companies that you are even ambivalent about them following you to the Fediverse, what are you doing here, in an environment that was created to escape them? You've literally heard from former artists whose dreams and livelihoods were destroyed by Meta changing its algorithms, and you want to see what Meta brings to the Fediverse? Can you not see why we, who moved here to escape Meta, Reddit, and tech companies, would be annoyed and frustrated by that? I see you apologizing for that user's loss, but are you really sorry if you're chill with bringing those things back into the one refuge we have left?

Please just figure your shit out. If you don't like memes, you can block meme communities. If it's too much, you can go back to Reddit or Meta. Lick their boots and pretend they have a motive of anything but profit, and will do anything but attempt to poach users from harmless, open source projects like these and destroy them. I don't care. But complaining about a platform to users on that platform accomplishes nothing. And for the love of Lemmy, don't be surprised that people are angry when you maintain the facade of keeping an open mind to something that has destroyed so much for so many. In my opinion, you may as well be a part of them, because the attitude of indifference you display toward these companies is what enables them to destroy good things for the rest of us.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

find the communities you like.

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