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white people can't help but fantasize about genocide even when it's to themselves

but on a serious note I think for some users it crosses into suicidal ideation and that makes me very uncomfortable

let's kill the structures of white supremacy so that "white" isn't really a thing

Personally, I would like to see some of that energy being used for more productive anti-racist actions

But then again, this a website for little goofy people sometimes and that means that people will be little and goofy sometimes

They hated him because he spoke the truth

I agree, it's incredibly self serving and you're not fooling anybody

I bet many other POC feel the same as me but I rarely even complain about white people here because I know it's like 90% white so it's just an audience that could never empathize with what I'm saying

As a poc I hate seeing these jokes because I worry that the poster thinks this is what poc actually want and are “aligning” in some misguided way with us, which just feeds into the “hur hur what if whites were a minority they would be treated just as badly as today’s minorities” nonsense from the chuds

Did that paragraph make any sense I just woke up

If telling people to stop posting worked, we wouldn't be here

On a non edgy note, being white but having class consciousness and being anti racist in cracker town USA sucks. The shit white people say to you that they think is acceptable is insane. It's like the power and privilege just poisons their souls. Whiteness as an institution/class, whatever it is, legit needs to be destroyed.

They're not particularly valuable posts

If hexbears wanna express their frustrations with racism or white supremacy I think it's fair to give them a platform to vent, but self-flagellation doesn't really do anything

It's a shibboleth for this community. Something you use to alienate people who don't know that, under all those layers of irony, you don't actually want to kill white people. Also preserves the identity of the community as an edgy/crass leftist space.

We prefer Saltinx thanks

You need to understand white people need of making everything about them. Is like basically their only culture.

we are losing our way

Yeah its one of the discussions on this site that make me remind myself that nobody irl talks like this

3 threads greater than 100 comments. Truly, this is one of the weeks where decades happens. I haven't read any of them.

Let’s colonize anti-racism

I'm one of the bad ones bad to the bone, babyyyyy

I usually try not to engage in discussions about this stuff (except for once before like years ago), but maybe I'll indulge a little bit and just say that not only does it make me uncomfortable when I see it, but I also know that it actively turns many people away from ideas of actual leftism when they see it, especially whenever they don't know how "serious" people are around here when they throw around the cracker-word.

I'm bi-racial and I don't have much of a "racial identity" (whatever that's even supposed to be or look like), so admittedly I always get at least a little uncomfortable when anybody starts talking about their or someone else's "race", much the same way I get a little uncomfortable when people start generalizing each other because of their age, their gender, whatever.

I fully recognize that white privilege is a real thing in western cultures, and that anyone who can be construed as "non-white" is put at a very real disadvantage in many real-world situations (sometimes fatally so), and so because of that I also recognize the urge to undermine the general concept that "white = good / normal" by lashing out against it. But when you call someone who's open to leftism but doesn't have a complete understanding of things a "cracker", for example, you put them down in a way that they usually perceive as intensely bigoted, to the degree that they will stop listening to every single thing you say after that. They'll leave here, and never take you or anyone associated with whatever they perceive as your ideology seriously again. And I think that's a big shame, because instead you could be trying to guide them to a more enlightened view of the world.

Ultimately - regardless of how justified it is by societal conditions - it's a hateful act, born of hate (often times self-hate), and I don't feel like that's in the spirit of communism.

And, at the end of the day, I am conserving all my hatred for the moment when I personally blow away during the revolution.

Yeah, that's what I've been saying. It's desperate, it's sad, and they all end up saying "no I don't actually mean kill all white people I mean to critique the concept of whiteness" THEN DO THAT INSTEAD OF WRITING THE SAME TIRED JOKE

You're not critiquing anything by making an ironic call for genocide. Critique the concept of whiteness then, and do it in a provocative way.
Most don't even mean to do that, they just hate racism or whatever, but they know that's a dumbass thing to write, because who doesn't hate racism? So instead they write something that will give them validation.

The worst post so far was the skiing one. Motherfucker you're talking about rich people, not white people.

Also this type of post comes around every few months, and this is the first time I haven't seen people make unironic actual calls for white genocide - as in "yes actually I think we should kill all people that are classified as white. I think actual genocide is good when it's against white people" (If you read this statement and think "hell yeah" then get help, you're not a good person for wanting to kill people) - so at least that's something.
I think this type of post helps reinforce to people that they can say and think what they want with no need for introspection, because they're "leftist" so they obviously have the rigjt opinion and they therefore never need to stop and consider wether they're doing something fucked up.

For what it's worth, I'm part of a communist org that's about 1/3 POC, and nobody in our group says this kind of stuff and we'd probably find it extremely weird and off-putting if someone did.

Whites have a racism gene and lobe, if they dont do at least 20 racisms they explode. So they need to do a racisms against themselves, truly sad

Just between us, you may want to lay off this "grind up the bourgeoisie" stuff. It's a bit off-putting, even to fellow communists.

This is something Kim would say to Harry

Have you considered it's kinda funny though, especially when random liberals take it super serious

hey we were all 14 once

“white” people don’t exist and if you think they do you’re tainted by white supremacy