In a world where aging comedians seek to entertain audiences with new material, one man decides that he's going to get back in the spotlight any. Way. He. Can.
This Christmas, Rob Schneider is Formerly Relevant
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"I cannot tell you how many @UnitedAirlines employees have personally thanked me for my valid criticism of your careless and life-threatening leadership," Schneider wrote…
And then everybody clapped.
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Help me out here: how is the crusade against diversity not racism and misogyny?
I will no longer allow my family to fly on your airline as you have clearly placed ‘diversity’ of pilot hiring above safety of passengers and crew."
The obvious implication is that diversity hires somehow negatively impact safety relative to non-diversity hires. Generally, in this exclusionary crusade, diversity is responsible for things going wrong.
And who is diversity supposed to help?
The CEO added, "One of the things we do is, for every job, when we do an interview, we require women and people of color to be involved in the interview process, bringing people in early in their careers as well and giving them those opportunities, uh, and creating a stronger bench."
So, without a shred of evidence, Schneider and the rest of the anti-DEI zealots decry the hiring of women and people of color as degrading the performance of everything from academia to airplane safety. It subtly asserts that the value of such people cannot rise to the level of...alternatives, whoever they may be (i.e., not women and people of color; who else is left??).
"Racism a form of prejudice that assumes that the members of racial categories have distinctive characteristics and that these differences result in some racial groups being inferior to others."
Misogyny is hatred or prejudice against women.
The subtle assertion conforms to the definitions of racism and misogyny because there is no evidence to support it, but the idea is believed wholeheartedly on faith or personal feelings. Whatever the unsubstantiated reason a person can believe that DEI as a practice is so detrimental must be racism and misogyny. It certainly not a reasoned position.
So where am I wrong? How is Rob Schneider not kinda racist and misogynistic?
Simple. If you're hiring based on diversity, you aren't hiring based on merit. The two are incompatible. And I, for one, would rather fly an airline where merit decides the pilot, not race
If you’re hiring based on diversity, you aren’t hiring based on merit. The two are incompatible.
So every woman and person of color hired based on diversity must not be qualified to do the job otherwise? Is that what you're saying?
That's just a straw man
I'm not even making an argument, let alone misrepresenting your position.
In fact, I'm trying to get you to clarify your position for me so I can better understand you.
So, again, are you saying that every woman and person of color based on diversity must not be qualified to do the job otherwise? Or are you saying something else?
If you're making selections based on diversity, you're fundamentally not focusing on hiring the best of the best. And for safety critical positions like pilots, I would much rather have the focus be 100% on quality.
If you’re making selections based on diversity, you’re fundamentally not focusing on hiring the best of the best.
Are there no women and people of color in the best of the best?
I mean, get what you're trying to say, but you're making unwarranted assumptions about the demographics of the cream of the crop. So, I'm trying to get you to either realize you're doing that and retract basically everything you've said so far, or to keep exploring what you think the best look like and why DEI is antithetical to picking people those meritorious looking people.
The best is the best, regardless of whatever bs diversity qualities. You'll get them without having to specifically look for shit like race and sex. Looking for those instead means you're no longer looking for the best, you're looking for whoever meets minimum standards and is also an acceptable race
If demographics don't matter, then what exactly is wrong with preferring someone of an acceptable race in the best of the best? (You still haven't said whether there are women and people of color in the best of the best or not...so let's assume there are.)
preferring someone of an acceptable race in the best of the best
All races are acceptable. You do know race is just a social construct right?
Do you know what a social construct is?
Yes, I do.
Because the moment you're preferring race, you're fundamentally not preferring something else, and if you ask me, race is pretty much the absolute bottom of the list of things to judge people on.
I said, let's assume that the best of the best is diverse in demographics.
You're saying that race preferences necessarily exclude other preferences. But what is not being excluded is whether any given person is the best of the best by our assumption.
So, sure, race can be the absolute bottom of the list of things to judge people on, but that's inconsequential. We're still highly qualified candidates.
It seems like I'm missing something: what other preferences should take precedence over race, then? We're already at the top of the top, the most whipped of the whipped cream. What other preferences might you prefer to take precedence over race at this level?
Or are you saying something else entirely?
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Peepin my dude, that is not what he said. He said that you can't select for both. That doesn't strictly mean that a qualified queer black woman doesn't exist, it means that you can't hire for diversity and for merit at the same time.
Yeah, I get that's what he said. We got to that. And then I pressed him on why that's true.
Because if there's a group of queer black women, and one of them is qualified, it's like these folks believe diversity demands that you pick literally everyone else other than the qualified one. This would've been a good example of my question to Momo when I asked him "If demographics don’t matter, then what exactly is wrong with preferring someone of an acceptable race in the best of the best?"
He continued to say it's impossible to choose the qualified people if a company focused on DEI as if the two were mutually exclusive. It's just impossible. Period. Or so he apparently believes.
Why that's true continues to evade the both of us and remains unresolved.
as if the two were mutually exclusive
Because they are. If you're prioritizing one metric of judgement, you're inherently putting at least some metrics below it. And unless you're of the stance that there's a big stack of 100% identical in every way other than diversity qualities, those people are all going to have different levels of actually relevant qualifications.
Where did he say "every woman and person of color hired based on diversity must not be qualified to do the job otherwise"?
He didn’t. What he said is the focus should only be on skill. Schneider talks about similar topics in his dialogue. It’s not that he’s a “conservative”. The liberals have just want so far, crazy, he appears to be conservative.
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Rated PG-13
3% Rotten Tomatoes
I don't fly United because Southwest has cheaper fares. I'm not privileged enough like Rob to consider diversity and safety for my choice of an airline
I don’t fly south west as they have a horrible safety record. United is carrier of choice but I may be switching to American
Why does this flake make news still?. Oh, fox.
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