I believe the death penalty is morally wrong in any and all circumstances. But if the state botches their murder attempt, they shouldn’t get a second try.
this post was submitted on 18 Jan 2024
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Something about jabbing someone with needles for an hour trying to kill them, failing, and being like “WELP LET’S KILL YA ANOTHER DAY”
…sounds a little, hmm. Cruel? Unusual maybe?
I agree, there's no world in which I can make the death penalty make coherent moral sense to me.
This article exemplified that perfectly with the interview snippets near the end. The guy mentioned that he's been receiving PTSD therapy since the first botched attempt, and I thought "what's the point in spending the effort and money treating his trauma when they're still so set on killing him?". To be clear, I don't believe that one bit, which is why it was such a jarring thought. I legitimately cannot understand why someone who was pro death penalty would care about this guy's wellbeing when they clearly don't.
I've heard nitrogen gas is perhaps the most humane method (though I oppose capital punishment). The feeling of asphyxiation comes from rising CO2 in the brainstem. If he can continue expelling the CO2 you won't feel anything except as you go hypoxic you'll become more dazed and confused until you simply pass out.
Then again I've always wondered why we don't just put these people under anesthesia and then overdose on morphine.
That one's in part because cruelty is by design I imagine, but also because the people giving those injections aren't medical professionals and can't legally obtain those substances. Guess that also explains how they can fuck up finding veins this bad. From what I've read and heard (In Last Week Tonight among others, I believe) they basically just use toxic crap that chemically burns the inmate from the inside and makes them asphyxiate while conscious. And of course they turn out to be undeserving of an execution around 5% of the time.
Wait, seriously? They aren't even medical professionals administering the substances...?
Guess that would kind of go against the Hippocratic Oath.
I would rather the accused be given their choice of method, like was done in this case, than to make arbitrary decisions on what one thinks causes the most suffering. Granted I to am anti death penalty. I don't see any benefit to it. I am for individual decided euthanasia.
Hell yeah, I'd choose gladiatorial combat.
