If tankies can will the term to no longer be shameful then why can't we insist that it still is? Do the tankies have a +1 rhetoric buff that we don't or something?
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Do the tankies have a +1 rhetoric buff that we don't or something?
Yeah it's called theory
Yea turns out not giving a shit what a bunch of liberals with so little political knowledge they call Bernie a communist think is basically a secret weapon.
Rhetoric was the voice of communist ideology in Disco Elysium, so there's a pattern emerging
Yeah but empathy is the voice of moralism, even though moralists believe in nothing. Endurance is the voice of fascism though, which is clever because the game presents fascist ideology as self-harm.
Liberals use Tankie. Chuds use Woke. Horseshoe theory confirmed ?!?!
Why would tankie be shameful ? If someone gets called a tankie I can assume that person is cool and groovy. Even people who are low on the tankie scale are usually much better than the average lib. If anything getting called a tankie is a seal of approval.
To put it simple if you dont want to destroy the west and neoliberal hegemony what are you even doing ?
Oh look, libs, the great deadening force of liberalism that steamrolls all political distinction into shapeless paste, has you suddenly concerned that your false equivalence bullshit has cheapened a term that, while already meaningless to you, relied on other people giving a shit to give it meaning and purchase while you smugged your way through life.
You got what you want and you hate it. Not my problem. Eat up, libs. You spineless stand-for-nothing cowards. I'll put the slop bowl on the floor so you can reach it
lmao these people talk as if they're actually doing anything on the ground. At least anarchists fight proud boys.
For real, and even among anarchists on the ground I've only met like 3 who used the word tankie. All three were weird though. One guy said the library next to where we hand out food is a "tankie library" because there were Marx and Lenin books in the socialism section. Another guy used the term tankie but I don't think he knew what it meant, since he'd refer to the cops as tankies. The other person would say tankie as shorthand for militant atheists.
But in all those three cases those people still hand out food and help people so they're light-years ahead of the bozos on r*ddit
Another guy used the term tankie but I don't think he knew what it meant, since he'd refer to the cops as tankies
Using "tankie" to mean "someone who has tanks" kinda rules. I like this guy's energy.
Wrong. I care about being a tankie. Mostly because when a lib calls me a tankie that's how I know I'm doing something right
It's a great term because like "woke" you can immediately figure out where they stand politically, and it also tells you that their opinions are completely worthless and can be ignored.
"We anti-authoritarian leftists should not allow these people to exist."
That is a hell of a way to close your post unbidden.
Especially after suggestion a whole ass group shouldn't exist and waxing poetic about using red-fash, which is in and of itself, a fascist fucking dog whistle.
E: dog whistle might not be the right word?
This is an Anti-Tankie reddit. The message you sent is either tankie/authoritarian "socialist" apologia or can be easily seen as such. Please, refrain from posting stuff like this in the future.
When your brand of anti-left leftism is so coherent and robust that you need an automod to delete posts that might disrupt the circlejerk
Sounds authoritarian [Where's that damn emote of the person in a well? lol]
hell yeah
Reddit brained nonsense. These all suck.
So anti-authoritarian
For real though, the most these people could ever accomplish is to be modern Rosa-killers.
"Guantanamo landlord"
Oh yea rhats deffinitly something that would piss off socialists, criticizing guantanamo bay.
They might actually think Cuba is in charge of Guantanamo.
These are just all my friends on Hexbear
average left anti communist
Cracker or Gusano?
If you live in a country dominated 99.98% by the rightwing and you spend all your time online crusading against “tankies” and punching left you are just an anti-communist chud
Langley worshippers growing increasingly uncomfortable with the implications of their astroturfed ideology
I feel like it's a decent bet that neither the OP of that post nor the majority of people replying have ever even given food or money to a homeless person.
I haven't but that's because I live in authoritarian tankie land without any homelessness
That reminds me, I wanted to make a right wing Twitter account that just comments on Steelers tweets, attempts to flirt with porn phishing accounts, and calls centrist liberals "tankie"
I was literally just now saying to @[email protected] that this is why we need to formalise the tactic rather than just breaking down individual uses of the tactic like "tankie".
This tactic is in use in so many ways. It's being popularly referred to as "thought-terminating cliche", which might end up the name of the tactic when it's formalised. Things like calling everyone a "terrorist" to stop any thought about what they're doing or why. "Tankie". "Woke". "SJW". Etc etc. This tactic is in significant usage and any time you break down the usage of an individual word they create a new one, so you're always going to fight this battle that way.
To fight this properly we need to go one step higher, don't attack just the individual usage but attacking the tactic itself too.
In order to do this we need to formalise this tactic in language and popularise it in order to drastically undercut its ability to be used. By formalising it as a bad thing (like fallacy shit) the libs and debatebros start calling it out when they see it. This way we could weaken its ability to be used considerably.
We need the technique to be picked up and talked of by orgs and academically. We need some people to write about the phenomenon/tactic itself so that those articles can then be pointed to as sources for its existence, and then wiki and other shit can get made for it to further cement it as a recognised formal language thing. From that point onwards it's just a matter of repeatedly pointing to the articles and shit to spread it more and more and more. It'll take on a life of its own and considerably wreck the tactic.
I think this is actually really worthwhile doing as it's one of the most common tactics of the US information and thought control system.
There is a very clear process of steps we can take.
what should we do?
Log off you weird fucking dweebs.
Nice try Tankie, but touching grass is exactly what the Red Fash Winnie the Pooh CEE CEE PEE wants us to do!
shidding and pissing liberals: they aren't offended by the name we're calling them, what should we do?!
meanwhile, tankies
legitimate threat to freedom
Whomever you think the "tankies" are pose no threat to anyone or anything you absolute dweeb, they're nerds posting on the internet just like you are
congrats hexbear, we don't even have to reply to win this posting war
they're just that bad at posting
I think these modern liberals would refer to those original British Trots as tankies, the ones who coined the term. Decades of propaganda and a weakened left in the west has resulted in these oddball social democrats who claim to be far more leftist than they actually are, because revolutionary socialism is too scary or something. Or they think foreigners are scary.
Also "this influences the real world and people's movements" lmao no it does not. Calling someone a tankie on Twitter repeatedly doesn't do shit. This is really a good insight into how these bozos think, isn't it? They think debates online do anything.
they proclaimed the term
Reclaimed?
That subs not even really cryptofash anymore, it's just full on.
Wow, what an unexpected twist
I for one think both the teacher and the schoolyard recess monitor need to be made aware of the depredations of these red fash tankies. It's that serious.
Calling everyone that is a left adjacent non westerner a ''tankie'' has the same equivalent in calling every brown person with a gun a terrorist
It's political stupidity at best and racism at worst
Tankies are being a threat to domestic security by naysaying the 4th reich sending more tanks into ukraine! We must eradicate these TERRORIST AUTHORITARIANS
God what a fucking dork. This is the political equivalent of the Tetris effect. I need to go outside, but this loser needs to GO OUTSIDE.
When we called right wingers chuds, 4chan was all "a chud worked out today, it was me." If you ever wanted to engage, it seems like it would serve you to relish in the title. A tankie is going to start a union vote today or an anarchist is going to work ALONGSIDE a tankchud, it's me. Even on some looks like my sexual pathology got the best of me. Give me your toothbrush. Someone with an axe to grind about authoritarianism can't balance that with the irony. If they could they'd probably have something better to do.
Now I just reply to them that I'm an adult who wears a diaper and I hate tankies too. No matter what Stalin Big Spoon tantrum follows, I just wholesale agree with it as an adult wearing a diaper.