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[–] [email protected] 130 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's a "best before" date not an expiration date, it might still be good!

[–] [email protected] 57 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably still as good as it ever was... Lol

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Maybe they meant it was disgusting. Like they bought a couple, ate one, and decided not to eat the other, and didn't get around to tossing it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

It's probably still perfectly safe to eat. It likely just tastes like hot garbage. Frozen food doesn't technically expire, it just slowly gets more and more freezer burnt that degrades the quality and taste. It remains perfectly safe to eat indefinitely, however.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

From a reverse image search, looks like this was originally posted on Twitter by Orla Walsh, a dietician. Her education experience on her LinkedIn puts her at about 36 years old at the time the image was posted (July 2023). Since this is her mom's fridge though, we estimate her age at 36+25=61. So, total score is 42.62.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Best before 2097? What's the problem there?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How many power outages has that Lasagna seen?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Inside it's just a box of snow with cheese.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Isn't this just survivor bias?

The unreliable fridges from 1980 have all failed already.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In Engineering you have two different kinds of failures:

The first is to do with manufacturing flaws and happens in the first couple of months of use, hence how Warranties work - bad part of bad assembly so it breaks on first use or soon after.

The second kind is the device dying from decay due to use, from old age if you will.

Survivor bias, IMHO, only applies for those devices that last beyond the stage were the first kind of failure can happen as it's kinda random (you can reduce the proportion of devices that fail, but for any one device it's random if it will be one that fails or not)

So a 3 year old fridge dying is not from manufacturing defects but it's dying from faster ageing, which is a flaw in the design or a choice of cheaper, lower quality components.

From what I've seen that's exactly what's been happenning: less robust designs and cheaper components with shorter lifespans, all to save on raw material costs.

Lower manufacturing quality tends to cause the first kind of failures, not the failures well past the first few months.

PS: Note that dying from the second kind of failure still has a random probability for any one device, though whilst the probability from dying from manufacturing flaws is very time dependent (starting very high and then tailing off to pretty much zero within some months), the probability of dying from age is a lot less time dependent and if that much increases slightly with increasing age (whilst the other kind decreases steeply with age, specifically decreases steeply with use). I'm mentioning this for completness, as the point still stands - if there is a high proportion of devices of a given type dying at year 3, then that design has a much higher rate of failure due to aging than devices for which a much smaller proportion dies at year 3, hence the design is not robust and/or lower quality components are being used.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean, it says new right on the box. Can’t be that old

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

L5264. You know, just a while after the Mayonnaise Wars of K3737.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let's get this out onto a tray.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How big is that freezer the she forgot a lasagna in there for this long?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Tomb style freezer probably, the bottom is basically inaccessible so shit gets forgotten...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (5 children)

My mom didn't defrost the freezer for ages. It's finally dead, but it took 2 hours just for the doors to unfreeze from the rest so I could open them.
See for yourself:

So perhaps a similar issue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

This is a profile photo of anxiety.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nonzero chance that abiogenesis occurred in there

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'd honestly be impressed by a freezer that's been running since '97.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's before they started building them to fail. Why? Because a freezer that's been running since '97 is at least two unsold new freezers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

There's also a lot of other stuff that changed over time. New appliances may be more efficient, run on different (more environmentally friendly) coolant, have lead-free solder circuits, etc.

The thing is, a lot of that old stuff which was found to have health or environment issues also lasted longer. Leaded solder didn't get burrs, for example. The components may also have been easier to repair.

But there's also survivor bias. For every old freezer that sat in grandma's basement for 2-3 decades many more ended up in a scrap heap.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I have a freezer from 1953, works fine. It's appliances made after @2000 that shit the bed in 5 years or less. No, it's not survivorship bias, there's a certain time period you don't see anything survived from.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Does that brand even exist anymore?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

It does say new on the package

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Even this picture is a decade old by now.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

What impresses me most is that her refrigerator has been working at least since 1997 This refrigerator deserves to go to the Valhalla of refrigerators

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Sooo, How was it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

After all that time, it truly is a kitchen classic.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure it's not 1997 now, but who knows what will happen in the future?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

My girlfriend's family cabin has a cold storage in the basement. We found some canned stew that had expired in 1982. A friend of mine actually ate it and he didn't get sick!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)

can food can last far longer than the expiration date, as long as it still has seal integrity, and not bulging.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

She’ll finally be in the mood for it, and learn that you shouldn’t throw things away cause you never know when you’ll need it. /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

If it went in the freezer good, it's good

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Guys it's just a "best by" date! Those things last forever!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

That's probably the best microwave dinner left on the planet if it doesn't have freezer burn.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

probably still good

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My father was an academic and the thing academics do when they visit each other's houses is to bring a bottle of something. So they had a cellar room full of booze. It was awesome when I was in high school in the mid-90s. My parents didn't drink beer though, so there was no beer in the house except for a six-pack of Michelob at the back of the room that had pull tabs on it. They stopped making pull tabs in 1980. So it was at least 14-year-old beer. It was one of the few things I didn't think about and/or decide to steal.

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