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And no, I won't take "because conservative was the only alternative." because we all know it isn't 
I want to smoke weed, but I also want to throw the homeless into a wood chipper
You make me want to cry. That's (In my opinion) kind of cruel. But even so, I do respect YOUR opinion.
Because my idol Vladimir Lenin was a liberal (social democrat)
We both know he was a libertarian
Lenin was a Maoist
Lenin was a Bidenist
Ah yes I forgot his seminal work "Who Is To Be Voted?"
What is to be done (about cornpop)?
Biden is Leninist
Because my favourite website is hexbear.net and I want to fit in with the rest of you
You and me, baby, ain't nothing but liberals. So let's 
like they do on the cable news channel.🎶
I’m too much a fan of means tested technocracy to even consider that there might be alternatives to the status quo.
It's too much work to be any thing else. If I was socialist I'd have to put energy into actually caring about other people and if I were conservative I'd burn my self out trying to stay outraged at everything all the time.
It’s the cumming
being a liberal allows me to feel morally superior to conservatives while still being very racist
Don’t know if this is more liberal or socialist, but I believe that I am doing well enough and want to help out my fellow man because when we all do better, society as a whole does better. I believe that the people hoarding money have a disease and we have enabled it through the focus we’ve put on money, that 0.1% can be better spent in general for everyone. Finally I don’t think the government should be getting in the way of personal rights, specifically between consenting adults. To that end, I support (most) abortions. Technically it’s a lump of cells that can’t support itself. I support marriages between any two consent capable adults regardless of their gender. I support the right to say your gender is whatever it is. In none of those situations would those actions directly affect someone else not involved. I could go on, but those are some examples.
Obsessing over abstract “personal rights” is liberal
Recognizing that society is structured in such a way that benefits a very small minority is more left-leaning
Socialist would be realizing that society’s problems are not a flaw in distribution of products but an intentional design of production itself; the legal right to use amassed wealth as a means for exploitation. That the issues with society are not reducible to individual evils but due to the logic of private property.
I think your heart is in the right place, but as our friend quarrk pointed out, your analytical framework is not a good one. You get to many good conclusions and deserve, if anything, more personal credit for that given the faulty liberal ideology working against you here, but it still represents an issue to a coherent worldview.
The reason that we should support there being legal rights to abortion, to be gay and trans, etc. is not because this brings the state's laws into closer alignment with some set of cosmic Natural Laws that exist above history and define what is good, it's because the outcome for us -- all of us, both the direct subjects of such laws and broader society -- is better. What I will for brevity call "patriarchal" laws, the opposite of what I just mentioned, inform the construction and maintenance of a sort of caste system wherein people have different social positions based on how the law interprets inborn qualities of theirs, and these divisions of society only serve to benefit the people at the very top, with any other benefit being a scrap of concession that does not match the benefits of having a population united along the lines of race, sex, etc. exercising truly democratic social organization that firmly and systemically opposes being bought off. There is no cosmic scale assessing our actions, there is only the actual outcome, and talk of deontological "Natural Rights" (not legal rights, which are helpful constructions) are purpose-built for liberals to protect the wealthy, doing things like conflating your toothbrush with one of Jeff Bezos's warehouses by placing them under the umbrella of "private property," which then is characterized as needing to be protected because "you wouldn't the state to steal your toothbrush, right?" In reality the relations of each item to the two of you and to society are both totally different, and the outcome of seizing one or the other is likewise completely different.
it's because the outcome for us -- all of us, both the direct subjects of such laws and broader society -- is better.
I want to highlight this because it's both the selfish and selfless case for socialist ideologies. Making society better for everyone isn't just about the selfless nature of caring for others and making sure they have enough, it's also about the selfish nature of guaranteeing that you are personally cared for and have enough. It's completely illogical to seek the extremely long odds of becoming extremely wealthy at the detriment of others and making yourself a target instead of guaranteeing you and everyone else has more than enough to thrive on.
I believe that the people hoarding money have a disease
baybee
your heart is in the right place, comrade. read 'Blackshirts and Reds," by Micheal Parenti. I promise you that book will change your life.
Because it would be bad for the economy to give people basic human rights like housing
Ah, I see, clearly the current economy should be removed in that case. It's ill-suited for humanity.
institutions and norms are my mommy and daddy
Hexbear wouldn't let me log in for like a year due to a glitch so now I'm doing it for a little bit just to piss all of you off
Hehehe
Because things should only happen if they're efficient, and they're only efficient if pursuing them directly happens to be in the short-term economic interests of every party necessary to achieve them. The only possible way to engage morally with the world is to just ensure that people behave as atomized homo economici, and then regard whatever emergent behaviors happen to result as tantamount to the will of God.
Because I read headlines (I don't read the whole article) that tell me everyone else is evil. I know the USA isn't perfect, and we've had some missteps. Iraq was a MAJOR oopsie for instance. But we are still better than those authorizations.
NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO QUESTION THE NARRATIVE TANKIES
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