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[–] [email protected] 103 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure the EU has done more for USA privacy on accident than our own government has done in general.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

For a lot of rights, looking at the right to repair too. Keep it up over there!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

What about the whole usbc apple thing? dont forget about that one

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The EU has right to repair?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

It's actually better than that.

"Obligation to repair goods to which reparability requirements under Union legal acts apply. The producers will be obliged to repair outside the legal guarantee. They can repair for a price or for free as part of a commercial guarantee. Examples of product groups currently covered: household washing machines, household dishwashers, refrigerating appliances and vacuum cleaners. More products will be added in the coming years, starting with smartphones and tablets."

Source from EU's own website.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

They passed some regulation setting the time replacement parts have to be available for devices. 10 years I think. And replacement batteries are mandatory. Both are big wins for repairability.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 73 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just wait for some corporate white knight to come here and explain how EU is stopping innovation. Love these guys, I always have a bag of popcorn at the ready.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

REEEEEE MUH LIGHTNING PORT REEEEE IT WAS SUCH INNOVATION REEEEEEEE USBC KILLED MUH 11 YEAR OLD USB2.0 SPEED CONNECTOR

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

i swear i argued with someone that said killing lightning would create so much ewaste, and that still sounds like a stupid arguement to me…

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Google may be forced by the EU to give you the freedom to choose which services are linked*

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

The Digital Markets Act (DMA) is an EU law that takes effect on March 6, 2024. As a result of the DMA, in the EU, Google offers you the choice to keep certain Google services linked.

Gotta love the weaselly language.

I'm wondering if they try to slither out of actually complying with the law.

  • They say they will unlink whatever "Ad Services" is and everything else. IMO they should unlink customer ad profiles from other service accounts, which I don't expect them to do.
  • The whole point of the DMA is not just to have Google unlink your Youtube account from your Gmail account, but that they provide the same level of service and integration to outside services as with their own, without prioritizing their own. That means that I should be able to use Google Chrome and Search together to the same degree as Firefox and Search. Execs at Google are on record saying the only point of them developing Chrome is to do stuff that is now against the law in Europe. I wonder if they find a new business model or keep the current, illegal one.
[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure they'll do it in a way that's convenient and doesn't require 14 clicks through obnoxiously designed popups every single time you use a Google service. Yep, certainly no way this could go wrong.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

They just need to put it in the regular account settings and not a single person on the planet will figure out how to get to them and change them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Law says that they can't favour their own service over that of their competitors. I guess they'll break it though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

and when they're caught, they'll dispute the claims with regulators, like every company does all the time.

i remember digging a bit into the french data protection office v. discord a while back, when they got hit with sanctions for not respecting gdpr, and they disputed every single claim, sometimes arguing in real bad faith, like them claiming they handle very little private user data, so they don't need to do data protection analysies like the law says.

considering google's sheer empire on data, i imagine they play the same tricks, but like 1000× worse

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

The EU seems like the only major entity actually trying at this point. They deserve a huge thanks in my book.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool. When can I have another location or backup provider on my Android phone?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can already use any backup apps. ADB-based, root-based or simply copying the APKs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can't back up app data without rooting my phone, and I can't root my phone until a third party gets the make files for me to use with magisk, and Motorola is not forced to provide them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

you can definitely back up apps and most files using adb and a computer, and probably even your phone itself by doing adb over the network back to your phone

also, i think there's a way of setting up a different location provider in the developper setings on android!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Our EU saviors. Its so disappointing that we need to rely on the EU to force companies to make changes rather than our own governments...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Next update - "Google to shut down Chrome in the EU"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

"Google to kill its own browser monopoly and encourage competition instead by leaving a market bigger than the US open"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Next update after that: "Competing browser taking 100% of Chrome's market share"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

"Microsoft to stop offering Windows in the EU"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

OEMs will start selling Linux-preinstalled laptops at lower price.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder why not that many people do this. And those that do usually only give you Ubuntu and nothing else.

I mean, there's the Slimbook and all, but shipping to my country is more expensive than a US cable subscription for one month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because do they sell Linux laptops, Microsoft can simply charge them more for Windows liscences

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So I guess the Linux options that aren't Ubuntu simply get thrown out the windows because of this (pun massively intended)?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why "that aren't Ubuntu"? They all get thrown out the window

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I simply don't ever recall seeing a different Linux distribution on laptops sold by da big bois. It's usually the smaller companies like Slimbook and Kubuntu Focus. Why? Idk, I'm probably just misinformed. If that's the case, there's this arrow pointing down button. Go ahead, press it.

Why do I keep asking for downvotes?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's because the big boys can risk the occasional Linux laptop without angering M$, they shop Ubuntu because it's still the most popular. Limux specific manufacturers often ship Ubuntu based distros (tuxedo-os, pop!_os ect) because it's a good base

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah, they already announced they will let EU users uninstall Edge. But only EU users because consumer choice bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This is why I'm so jealous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Stop, stop, I can only get so erect

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

They would dare, I think, maybe even the reverse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_effect

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't you always unlink Google services by using different accounts for them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

you could, but they definitely pushed you to use a single account everywhere, even logging you in automatically to your google account in chrome if you use it on google search or vice-versa