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[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago (6 children)

What I find depressing is that most of the Arab world thinks so, but the majority of people from Gaza don't.

Arab world: https://i.imgflip.com/41f829.jpg

It clearly shows that Arabs don't care about fellow Palestinians suffering, and the only thing that matters is that they fucked up lives of some Jews.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Arabs aren’t one people. They’re many different tribes. They’ve been fighting as long as the historical record. So them not caring about the Palestinians is not surprising but obvious.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

the majority of people from Gaza don’t.

Last poll I saw shows the majority of Gazans approve of Oct 7:

57% of respondents in Gaza and 82% in the West Bank believe Hamas was correct in launching the October attack
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514

Has public opinion in Gaza shifted since then?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (26 children)

Nobody hates Palestinians more than other Arabs. This was never about them, it was always about hate for Israel.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I dunno, maybe the people genociding them hate them more.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The blood feud just makes me feel... tired. And sad for the whole region.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I'm really exhausted from all the crises happening across the planet on a daily basis. Its become as average as Tuesday. It's desensitizing.

I would love to duck my head in the sand, but that won't make things any better.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (16 children)

Considering how the Arab world at large never agreed with the terms of Israel's conquest, this makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In the 40s and 50s they all agreed on kicking those same Jews out of their counties, though.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And attacking Israel at the same time but still all losing so bad that Israel actually gained land.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

It does seem like some anime shit

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

How the fuck did you even interview them? The governments of many Arab countries in this survey would kidnap and jail you indefinitely without trail if you support Palestine in public or on social media, and many other cave in to what they are expected to say. It's garbage in garbage out

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Why on earth do we accept J Post articles here? It's literally Israeli propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm surprised it is this low.

Edit: the comments are hell. But what else to except from propagandized westerners that never cared to know from Arabs.

I wish our leaders had a sense of shame or honour, instead many of them are collaborators.

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not to be pedantic but I'd to clarify one aspect that not many people know.

He was right, except for one. At least from the perspective of those Muslim Arab leaders:

Our God is not theirs.

Islam is an Abrahamic religion, regarded by the Muslim as a continuation of the Abrahamic religions before it. So the muslim regard themselves as having the same god as the Jews and the Christians. Thus, the prophets of the Jewish religion (and even the prophets of the Christianity, Jesus) are also regarded as prophets in Islam. Many of them are mentioned in Quran in good faith. The main difference is the jewish doesn't recognize Muhammad as their prophet while the Muslim regards Muhammad as the last prophet in addition to those before him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (22 children)

To me, the crazy thing is that 33% of the Arab world doesn't think it was legitimate resistance.

The October 7th attack was clearly terrorism. But to have such a big percentage of the Arab world seem to agree with that, even in such an insanely one-sided situation as the ongoing occupation of Gaza, means:

A lot of people want peace.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (7 children)

No doubt about that. minus some bad details .

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