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Greetings everyone! Daniel here, I've been working on Linkwarden part-time over the past few months.

Linkwarden is a self-hosted, open-source collaborative bookmark manager to collect, organize and archive webpages.

Key features:

  • πŸ“Έ Preserve webpages as Screenshot, PDF, etc. So you can access them even if they are taken down.
  • πŸ‘₯ Collaborative, so you can share your collections with your friends and colleagues. You can also make them public and share them with the world.
  • πŸ“± Designed for every screen size, from widescreen monitors down to smartphones.
  • ⚑️ Open source and fully self-hostable!
  • ✨ And so many more features! (Literally, just didn't want to make this post too long. Check out the Github repo and Website for more info...)

If you like what we're doing, you can support the project by either starring ⭐️ the repo to make it more visible to others or by subscribing to the Cloud plan (which helps the project, a lot).

Things like mobile app (PWA) are already on the project roadmap and I'm so excited to share them with you in the future.

Feedback is always welcome, so feel free to share your thoughts!

Website: https://linkwarden.app

GitHub: https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

Cool app at first glance!

I always wonder why some open source projects choose discord and not matrix?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Matrix is cool but its user base is not there yet.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then stop driving people to discord alone, at least use both so there’s an option

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So... split the user (and support) base while invariably emphasizing the shortcomings of Matrix?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You can link them together at least that's how the discord and matrix chats are for our instance are. I can chat from discord and get replies from people in matrix

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I was not aware of a way to bridge two channels/servers entirely. I know there are bots that people use to bridge their user accounts though.

If it is fully seamless? Sure. But I don't know why you are bothering then. But if it adds a "Bot" tag or any other hoops, you are still just making a worse experience for everyone. We ran into this back in the IRC days all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

You can create a webhook in Discord and in Matrix that will share messages in channels back and forth

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

By that logic, why are you on lemmy?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Discord and matrix are not searchable, they shouldn't be used at all

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wonder why they don't just set up a forum

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Perhaps they could create a community on programming.dev

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Matrix is a terrible experience, honestly. It's incredibly slow and their "servers" don't really function as a community as much as a series of chat groups. I'm not fond of opening my chat app and then staring at it for 10-15 seconds while it loads all the new messages. And yes, I've tried different servers.

Discord is feature-rich. And now has the option to submit posts, which drastically increases usability and searchability. But it does have a big problem with privacy and ads.

Projects like this are much better suited for something like Gitlab.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

matrix.org works just fine. Nowadays, the experience is as good as on any other chat app

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I think Matrix suffers from some issues with large communities, for instance Graphene OS has already had to abandon 2-3 of their main group chats due to same bug and last time I checked (2-3 months ago) there has even been talks of switching to Discord. That is, just in case, a community of some of the most diehard privacy nerds btw

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is there the potential for SingleFile html archives rather than pdf & screenshots? I’d imagine it’d be a fair bit smaller file.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Or other standard archiving formats like WARC.

There also is https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox which looks a bit similar.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Thank you for including oAuth options for sign on. Makes a big difference being able to use the same account for all the things like freshRSS, seafile, immich etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm intrigued. How does it work? Do you have a link or an article to point me to?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The general principle is called single sign on (sso).

The idea is that instead of each all keeping track of users itself, there is another app (sometimes called an identity provider) that does this. Then when you try to log into an app, it takes to the to login of your identity provider instead. When the IP says you are the correct user, it sends a token to the app saying to let you access your account.

The huge benefits are if you are already logged into the IP on a browser for example, the other apps will login automatically without having to put in your password again.

Also for me the biggest benefit is not having to manage passwords for a large number of apps so family that uses my server have 1 account which gives them access to jellyfin, seafile, immich, freshrss etc. If they change that password it changes it for everything. You can enforce minimum password requirements. You can also add 2FA to any app now immediately.

I use Authentik as my identity provider: https://goauthentik.io/https://goauthentik.io/

There's good guides to settings it up with traefik so that you get let encrypt certificates and can use traefik for proxy authentication on web based apps like sonarr. There are many different authentication methods an app can choose to use and Authentik essentially supports everything.

https://youtu.be/CPURnYaW3Zk

SSO should really be the standard for self hosted apps because this way they don't have to worry about ensuring they have the latest security for user management etc. The app just allows a dedicated identity provider to worry about user management security so the app devs can focus on just the app.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Authentik is pretty good. Authelia is good too, and lighter weight.

You can combine Authelia with LLDAP to get a web UI for user management and LDAP for apps that don't support OpenID Connect (like Home Assistant).

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Using it since 2 months now and I really like it. Was totally worth a donationπŸ‘

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I’ve been using ArchiveBox, this looks a bit more feature-full than ArchiveBox although it seems like ArchiveBox has been pretty stable. Anyone have experience with both, can vouch for the pros and cons?

I may take some time to compare the two. After taking another look at Linkwarden I get the impression it may handle archiving pages differently than ArchiveBox, which isn’t a bad thing it may just not fit the usage of everyone who uses ArchiveBox. The presentation and UI look really good, which is something I find ArchiveBox suffers a bit from.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

I actually tried to build Raindrop.io-clone like this one one day, but never got the time to work fully on it... Congrats OP!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
IP Internet Protocol
NAS Network-Attached Storage
SMTP Simple Mail Transfer Protocol
SSO Single Sign-On

4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 14 acronyms.

[Thread #412 for this sub, first seen 8th Jan 2024, 22:05] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure the IP detected was a user talking about β€˜identity provider(s)’ and not Internet Protocol.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Archivebox is in my obsidian workflow, it grabs every link in my vault and archives it. I didn't see an API in linkwarden, perhaps I missed it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

It seems so much nicer than my nextcloud bookmarks!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What value can this bring me over features available using a Mozilla (Firefox) account and the Official Wayback Machine Browser Extension?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Collaboration, making your collections public, better organization, self-hostedness (idk if that's a word), better UI and so on...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for responding quickly

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How does making collections public work if you're self hosting?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Amazing! Have wanted something like this for years, currently use raindrop but not fully, very hesitant of locking myself in. This looks very promising.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

This looks like a good replacement for Raindrop.io

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

FYI, if you have a synology NAS and want to self-host using the docker install, these instructions work: https://mariushosting.com/how-to-install-linkwarden-on-your-synology-nas/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Installed and no way to login, see this in your GH issues:

https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden/issues/415

This is a fresh install as about 10 minutes ago so using the :latest tag which I believe is the v 2.4.8 build. Signing up is possible and I was able to create my user account so that's a good start at least. :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I wish it was database agnostic. And I'm slightly concerned about the version three rewrite.

It does look awesome, and I'll revisit it to see where things are in six months.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I can imagine that news orgs won't like having publicly available backups of their subscriber only content. Is this a problem that has been considered?

Also, somewhat related, are the plans to turn this a little bit into a P2P archive.org? I mean, if multiple people store snapshots of webpages at different times, the timeline could be rebuilt using their publicly available snapshots.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

are the plans to turn this a little bit into a P2P archive.org?

Now that would be cool!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah. I expect basically any publicly available instances to get C&Ds REAL fast.

And a p2p archive.org will basically never work. For the same reasons that the various NSFW lemmy instances get defederated from almost instantly. Because there is room for discussion on sites that highlight nudity in movies. There isn't much room to discuss when it is nothing but revenge porn, "fappening links", ripped OF content, and (inevitably) child porn.

Stuff like this... I am sure there are niches but I am not seeing a lot of benefit over either a folder or a notes app that lets me upload PDFs (or even just google drive). But once you try to build a "community" you are going to have the same moderation issues amplified a hundred fold.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure I understand your thoughts on p2p archive.org . What does it have to do with NSFW lemmy? I don't follow.

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