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submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Kim Davis, the former county clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses in Kentucky to same-sex couples, must pay a total of $260,104 in fees and expenses to attorneys who represented one couple, according to a federal judge’s ruling.

That is in addition to $100,000 in damages a jury said the former Rowan county clerk should pay the couple who sued.

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Davis drew international attention when she was briefly jailed in 2015 over her refusal despite the US supreme court’s legalization of same-sex marriage. She based her refusal on her belief that marriage should only be between a man and a woman.

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[-] [email protected] 257 points 8 months ago

Good. Your religion does not control how a government functions. You want to live in a theocracy? Go live in Vatican City or one of the more authoritarian Islamic countries. If you live in the US the policy is what the government, not your God, make it.

[-] [email protected] 73 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Unfortunately if this goes to supreme court, she'll get away Scott free. USA is becoming a theocracy, celebrating Christian doctrine as if it was Sharia law in a muslim country.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Becoming? Always has been.

This is just an Extinction Burst.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago
[-] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I hope so too, and their inability to try anything new is what gives me hope that it is indeed an extinction burst.

Because extinction bursts are generally characterized by a "this is what worked before, we just have to do what worked before harder!" attitude, which generally seems to be the attitude the Christofascists have.

They're not selling any new ideas or changing tactics from what they have used in the past, it definitely seems like "just more of the same, but harder" because they don't actually have any ideas. Which tracks as an extinction burst, imho.

Which like, who expects a death cult to have any actual ideas?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

just more of the same, but harder

I agree, but I'm disappointed that so many follow that line, instead of most of them thinking this has gone too far. Where is the point where people begin to turn back to normalcy again? I sure hope the extinction burst doesn't include a full fledged fascist christian dictatorship, that may take decades to turn back from.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Sadly, the extinction burst is us getting crazy before we kill ourselves and the EARTH (minus humans) returns to a more stable environment.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Behaviorism in my Lemmy?! I welcome it with open arms.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Hey bucko, here in JesusLand, ya'll best stay on the right side of God and his Holy Ya'll Qaeda militias, otherwise the Gays might cause another Hurricane!

[-] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Yes I understand there's that issue with gays in USA. I'm lucky to live in Denmark, one of the least religious countries in the world, and for some weird reason, also one of the most blessed by God. For some reason God likes our Gay way better than the American. Go figure? 🤪
Or maybe we are just less cursed, because God gave up on us? 😱

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago

A friend of mine pointed out she could have probably just claimed to have to go to the bathroom each time a gay couple arrived in that super conservative rural area and let someone else deal with it. Keeping her cough...morals....cough intact with no one being the wiser.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

All she had to do was let someone else in her office issue the certificates. But like all religious bigots, she didn't understand that

  1. The first amendment's guarantee of religious freedom protects citizens from the government. If you are a government employee, you are what the first amendment protects citizens from.

  2. She was wrongfully enforcing her own religious beliefs on her assistants. Kentucky (at the time) required county clerks to sign all marriage certificates, or the clerk's assistants could sign their name instead. Davis could literally have refused to sign every "gay" marriage cert that came in to the Rowan county office, but as long as someone in the office signed it there wouldn't have been a problem. However, she forbade any of her assistants from signing the certs because she considered the mere act of stamping her name on one to be exactly the same as her personally endorsing "gay" marriage. So even if her assistants had no religious objections to "gay" marriage they were prevented from doing their jobs because of her religious beliefs.

So bigot gets what bigot deserves. The only tragedy to this story is that Matt Staver gets to fuck off with no consequences.

[-] [email protected] 97 points 8 months ago

Oh no! Not the consequences of my own actions!

[-] [email protected] 74 points 8 months ago

Never thought I'd hear that asshole's name again. But I'm glad this is the way I heard it. Bigots getting what they deserve always puts a smile on my face.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

I wondered how many times she has proclaimed "Go woke. Go broke."

I hope her check clears.

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[-] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago

Thoughts and prayers

[-] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But why? All she did was deny a sanctioned government service to an entire class of people. /s

Unfortunately I'm sure she'll turn this into another fundraiser paid for by her fellow Christian fundamentalists.

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago

9 years, this all moved kind of slowly didn't it?

[-] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I actually was doing the math on this kind of thing lately, but it was RE: Alex Jones/Sandy Hook.

So, the average US lifespan is about 77.

So a court case taking 10 years is about 1/10th of your entire life.

Now, consider that the beginning of your life (say up to 13 or so) you're not really in any mental position to be able to bring a court case. At the end of your life (similarly probably the last 15 years or so), you're in a similar position, where your body and mind may be failing and you may not be in a position to bring a court case.

So if we cut off the "unusable in court" years of our lives, we're left with about 50 years of good quality "living" as an adult.

That means a court case taking 10 years is actually closer to 1/5th of your entire life.

How is a life where a large portion of it was fighting in court just to get a bare minimum of what is passing for justice a quality life?

Do people not understand the passage of time and these are literally lives being wasted fighting for justice from fucking idiots?

I understand the whole "court moves slow" but god damn there's got to be a better fucking system than making people wait out giant chunks of their lives for a pathetic half-ass result that isn't anywhere close to "justice."

It's a fucking travesty that anyone defends it. It's a broken ass system, stop acting like we can fix something that places such little value of the time spent on such things in a persons life.

Seriously if I had spent that many years trying to claw back justice from a fuckwit like this or Alex Jones, I would not look back and think I had had a chance to have a "life well lived." No, the "justice" system took that from me by taking its sweet fucking time.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Justice delayed is justice denied.

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago

It's almost like the conservative court strategy is to appeal, delay, and hope you die before you face any consequences.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's almost like the "justice" system was organized like that on purpose because a lot of the people who helped write the constitution didn't want the aristocracy to go anywhere, or to have to face consequences, so they wrote a shitty constitution that still generally protected everyone in a position of power from ever having to answer to "a fucking plebeian."

Gee, I wonder why the justice system is boiled down to "Whoever has the most money can just fucking wait out the other guy to win."

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Too much of our judicial system globally is based on Roman law. Our concept of private property is derived from their excuse for maintaining slavery.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Oh same thing I am doing with my student loan debt.

If I make it to death it means I win.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

I mean, the legal system usually does. There's been a bit of a shit fight as to who should pay, the state or Kim. Might boggle your mind more to know that she still had the position up until 2019...

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

that's a feature. it lets the powerful fuck over the powerless without consequence because the powerless can't afford to take a decade of their lives off fighting in court.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago

Eff yeah! EAT S*$% you hateful monster!

A little good news goes a long way these days, when there's so little of it. TY OP for the post.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So scared of islam yet so happy to implement sharia

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Talibangelicals don't hate Islam because of some Crusader-Era kink. They just don't like Arabs, Persians, and other shades of Brown Person. Reverend Wright ate all the same shit, despite being at least as Protestant as the last ten Presidents.

There's actually some speculation as to whether the modern day Joe Rogan / Andrew Tate conservatives are tacking towards Islam. Certainly, with all the free money the Saudis and Qatars are pumping into western broadcast athletics (golf, MMA, even e-Sports) I wouldn't be surprised to see more high profile Muslims stepping into the same role that guys like Hakeem Olajuwon and Muhammad Ali once filled.

In another generation, our Ben Shapiros and Steven Crowders could very well be replaced by Jordan B. Peterson in a skull cap.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago

Yeah, sure, she'll take that out of her -$26,100 net worth and get right on paying that back.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

I thought she rode the MAGA grifter wave for a while. I'm sure she pissed away all her grift money already, but maybe she actually has some assets left from the hate train.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

She should setup a GoFundMe and ~~fleece~~ ask other bigots for the money. let them eat each other.

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago

I am curious if she's been married, again, and divorced, again, since 2015.

[-] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago

Apparently not, still on the fourth one to the second husband.

Honestly this is the kicker for me

Shortly after the same-sex marriage license controversy, Davis said she and her husband switched from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

At least they recognized their true nature.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Everyone likes to point out that she was divorced a lot, but can you blame her? She probably had dudes beating down her door to go out with her.

What guy doesn’t want to hook up with an angry clerk with a pompadour and baggy overalls. She’s got that “you’re in the wrong line” DMV hotness that everyone fantasizes about.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Glad she's finding out, but she can probs fundraise her way out of that in a few hours via the right-wing griftiverse. There's no amount of money that hate-filled right wing grannies won't give to assholes that they think will stick it to the libs.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Man I'd love to have a way to get the right-wingers to just give me money without compromising my morals.

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago

They'll never see it.
I bet they could repo her trailer and take all her shit and they still wouldn't get more than $26,000.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

I feel like lawyers in a high profile case will make sure every single penny is squeezed out of her until she dies

At least I hope so.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

She'll raise more in donations from this than the fees and end up turning a profit.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

I'm glad this is the ruling. ...even if I know there will be a GoFund to pay this off, and she'll probably be running for Congress in no time on the platform of "Elect me to legitimize our homophobia."

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Every dollar going to her is a dollar not going to some other hate cause.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Can someone tell me why a clerk is an elected position?

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

God work in mysterious ways!

[-] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

$360,000 coulda bought a shit-ton of denim dresses and white tennis shoes.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Where is your Huckabee now, dipshit?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

it warms my heart that, eight years later, she’s still feeling a very expensive sting from her absolute and unwavering cuntery.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Step 2 find out

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

You shouldn't judge people by their looks, but I have to admit I'd be a little scared to meet her in person.

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