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[-] [email protected] 235 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I read the abstract of the referenced article, this entire image is Conservative nonsense. The study did not find that liberals had an "atrophied" amygdala. It showed that conservatives have an enlarged right amygdala, due to their overpreparedness for a fear response.Meanwhile, the study found that liberal had a larger anterior cingulate cortex, which is an area of the brain commonly associated with empathy and other higher-order processes like decision-making.

The study provides support for conservatives being scared piss babies who are overly terrified of the world, whereas liberals are empathetic and make better decisions. The fact that this idiot made the entirely wrong conclusion is almost as incredible as it is sad.

[-] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago

That may be because OP had an agenda to push whatever the means, or simply is conservative.
BTW, anybody remembers some other studies similar to this, used to show how certain demographics were basically worse in a biological/genetic sense? Something around 1920-'30..

[-] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Phrenology was the pseudoscience that was used to enforce the ideology that white people were superior by looking at the inside of a skull and measuring certain areas and using those measurements to justify racism

[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Look, psychology in the early 20th century was an absolute mess. There's a reason we now have stuff like ethics boards, and strict constraints on the kind of studies that can be run.

Before that psychology was pure mad science.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

Yep, there are several studies researching this in various ways. An important thing to point out is that those two portions of the brains are inversely correlated without affecting other portions of the brain like the frontal cortex. So a person can be a good doctor or scientist and also be conservative. So conservatives have high fear responses to people who are different and lack empathy while left leaning people have less fear and increased empathy. Studies also show that brains develop to have an oversized amygdala when they have physical or emotional abuse as growing up or if they have severe lack of resources.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

And in reality, it's just the newest version of phrenology bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

A phrenologist feels and interprets the size of Walt's asshole.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

It's like reading the Muller report, or for that matter, the constitution. Pro-Tip: it helps if you don't bother to read it at all. That way you can pretend it says whatever you want it to say! Oh yeah, the Bible too - "the worker deserves their wages; don't be a Karen; nor a pedophile either; be not afraid and instead be kind to everyone you meet, etc."

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Thanks for going the extra mile.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

It seems that they only conducted the study on students?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

yeah, that's very standard. lotta universities have requirements on undergrads participating in studies. that's why you often see them as the subjects.

It's certainly fair to criticize, and it would be interesting to see if the study's findings hold true for a broader population, but finding test subjects is tough. you take what you can get.

[-] [email protected] 151 points 8 months ago

Alternative take, conservatives are stupid, panicky, irrational animals lashing out in fear at anything unfamiliar or that they don't understand

[-] [email protected] 79 points 8 months ago

Here's some neuroscience knowledge. If a part of the brain is overstimulated and requires too many resources, it actually gets expanded to the detriment of other parts of the brain. The inverse is also true, if a part isn't used other parts become more dominant. As seen when the brains of blind and deaf people were studied, it was found that the brain actually rewired itself to improve the still working parts.

It's simply your brain being efficient with it's resources. That means the amygdala of conservatives is so overstimulated that it leeches resources away from the rest of the brain.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Scaredy cats!

[-] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Often, but remember to punch up, not down.

They can also often be some of the kindest people as well, at least individually even if not from a societal standpoint. It's strange to think about, I know!

They just think different - accepting argument by authority more readily than using skeptical thought to personally analyze all input. And in that sense, they share a lot more in common with liberals than the latter group is comfortable admitting... Most thinkers are liberals but the converse is not true.

Also, everything changes - this Alt Right (or whatever term has replaced it now) is nothing like the Tea Party brand of fiscal and social conservatism that it replaced, which itself was very different than the old-school conservatism, like George W. Bush was a freaking progressive, who wanted to fund education and feed the homeless (and despite the ineptness of their implementation, he did end up doing both!) (And on and on it goes, further back, e.g. Lincoln freed the slaves - what will Republicans be ten years from now, I wonder? At some point, the two sides will switch again, it's the nature of the game.)

It's so easy to simply blame the other side for being inept, but even if true, it does not absolve us from not accomplishing anything ourselves. e.g. abortion is now up to each state to decide, so an excellent time to pass laws protecting it in each state... before conservatives find a way to do the opposite?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Capturing the whole America conundrum in mere sentences when looked at from a European point of view

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[-] [email protected] 112 points 8 months ago

So, conservatives are just a bunch of cowards?

[-] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes. That's the whole reason for the tribalism. It's a survival mechanism that helped our ancestors. But it's wildly out of place in our modern world. And sadly many people's brains are on the legacy firmware.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

People's brains are on the legacy firmware

This is going to be immediately filed into my favorite phrases corner of my brain

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Yes, cowards with engorged amygdalas that make them fear everything and everyone unlike themselves.

Quite literally a fear boner.

[-] [email protected] 102 points 8 months ago

Not every day you see someone flexing about being an irrational coward 😂

[-] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Watch Trump’s Iowa rally from Dec. 19 to see more.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No, I mean, they idealise their irrational fear all the time. What's novel is going to great lengths to spell out that being afraid makes them better.

He's fooling nobody with his half-hearted "stress" response dodge 😂

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

He's fooling nobody with his half-hearted "stress" response dodge 😂

Other conservatives are eating that shit up, so at least some people are fooled…

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I meant nobody who isn't already a member of the cult, but good point.

Btw, this is very old knowledge. I posted a study about this to a political shitposting Facebook group over a decade ago to make fun of how conservatism is an irrational fear response and they basically said that the study must be wrong because everyone ELSE is the one who's scared, not them!

Fast forward several years and they're using the same study that was old even back then to promote themselves like some weird distortion of the "greed is good" Gordon Gekko bullshit 😂

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[-] [email protected] 88 points 8 months ago

This is not the kind of flex they think it is.

[-] [email protected] 85 points 8 months ago

"Lefties aren't scared enough about real world issues like what happens when boys kiss. It's due to their diminished amygdala."

Lefties gesture to entire planet on fire.

"Typical leftist fear mongering!"

Remember folks, it's not conservatives' fault they deny climate change, they're biologically predisposed to be too afraid to handle it.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Conservatives maybe physically diffrent, but also being physically predisposed doesn't mean you get to harm everyone in asking for accommodation.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Great observation

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[-] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Interesting. Has anyone thought to compare the abnormality to heightened levels of lead in the environment.

Edit: Also, what the fuck is suppose to be scary about immigration? Please don't try to conserve-splain it to me either.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago

Immigration is scary because brown people.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Immigrants are some combination of:

  • Coming to take all the jobs because they're so hard working

  • coming to take all the social safety net because they're so lazy

  • bringing crime with them because they're bad people

  • Miscegenating the white women (miscegenating WITH?)

  • Coming in on democratic buses to vote for Obama somehow

  • Coming in to aggressively not speak American

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

There's one more that I can think of.

Their recent ancestors also migrated there, and look how they treated those who were already there before them. Now, every time they look in the mirror there is a guilt they will not fully acknowledge, but it's there, and deep down they're afraid they'll end up faring like the natives, that they'll end up getting treated the way they have treated others.

That they'll get treated the way they know deep down that they deserve.
No coincidence that those most loudly and vulgarly opposed to immigration are concentrated in the racist, confederacy-sympathizin' pro-slavery south.

It's so easy for charlatans to successfully pop-up in that environment and whip the people into a frenzy, feeding them more ignorance and fear every day. You get the evangelical preachers and the republican politicians, and the line is blurry between the two.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Because immigrants are the other. It's fear of people who are different, worrying they will change how you live your life.

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago

Stimuli also causes certain parts of the brain to become more dominant. A smaller amygdala means everything else gets more resources.

A larger amygdala means the fear response is so constant that it takes up more resources and makes everything else smaller.

This is basic neurological science. Similar studies of redistribution of resources have been made on blind and deaf people.

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago

This clown is straight up like "I'm conservative because the wowld is scawwy :-("

[-] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

Imagine telling on yourself like this

[-] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Like 15 minutes in any Wal-Mart

[-] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

90 isn't exactly a particularly large sample size to make such sweeping claims...

[-] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

So we can call conservatives cowards now?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Don't trigger them, you'll make those snowflakes go out and buy even more guns to protect their safe space.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

We weren't?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

I think this dude has taken one too many loads to the brain steam.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Brain steam is where you buy video games for your brain.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

How can this be true? I thought my amygdala was big because I have chronic anxiety?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

No, its all the lead paint. We have tried to get you to stop multiple times and now we are here.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

So, you could say that they're snowflakes.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Oh, Amygdala. Oh, Amygdala. Have mercy on the poor bastards.

  • Patches, 2015
[-] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Reminds me of that scene in Django

[-] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

The phrenology scene? Yea. This has the same energy.

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