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[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Is it weird that the only celebrity who's getting a public print of emissions is one that is despised by a political party for getting people out to vote?

I don't really care much about her, but this feels like "how do we get young people to not listen to this person... ah, let's go with emissions".

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure that doesn’t hurt, but I think it’s primarily from being #1 on that list of private jet emissions. Easiest to remember who #1 is and keep talking about that.

And well, she’s welcome to stop doing it. The republicans aren’t making her fly this much. I still think it’s a net positive if she inspires enough turnout to defeat Trump in 2024, but it’s still singularly her choice to send that plane up there and don’t think it’s that good for the environment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Oh no. It's not good, and we should probably lambast the top 10 after the election. Right now, it just feels like the trap is communicating republican propaganda. We know how good they are for the environment, and the cost to the planet will be far greater...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine spending ~$25,000 every time you want to go see or support your bf.

I balk at using a tank of petrol to go see my SO.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I won’t consider dating someone the next town over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

If we don't live in the same apartment building it's too far

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From this, looks like an average US person carbon footprint is 16 tons of co2 per year, so this one relationship is about 35x more carbon intensive.

https://www.nature.org/en-us/get-involved/how-to-help/carbon-footprint-calculator/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

that should be a post of its own

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We don’t need people to be allowed to be this rich. Is fucked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree but she’s not even a billionaire. There are much bigger problems than Taylor Swift.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

She actually is a billionaire after the era tour, but basically made her money via performing, not direct class warfare.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Let's not forget where she started from, though. She started in the clouds

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

How do they think the team is getting around? Compost powered catapult?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t he be flying with his sports team anyway? And wouldn’t she be traveling as part of her touring schedule anyway?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

they need to exchange love liquids once and a while

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

She can just fly first class in a regular commercial plane. Private flight is just stupid.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Commercial flight isn't too great either. High speed rail is a lot nicer.

Not to mention; having your own plane is cool, but is it cooler than having your own train?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

no offense, but what do you do to make it to your european tour ? take a balloon ? ..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would honestly rather spend two weeks in the bilge of a container ship than eight hours on a plane so maybe they could do that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

well, there's this thing called ego; when people feel themselves like way important, they like to approach things in a more exotic/exclusive way, which only few people would have access to, to keep nurturing such ego. i wouldn't really like to spend my journey in the bilge of a ship, but i get your point and upon which i agree: commuting in all its forms sucks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Gotta admit, bilge of a container ship is pretty fucking exclusive...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Just me and the rats

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The TAy Tay Train. I can see it now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

She'd have some cute overalls and one of those engineer's caps and a smudge of dirt on her face and suddenly every woman under 30 looks like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Love liquids" is the new shiny addition to my vocabulary for 2024.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

time on Lemmy well spent

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Damn, I knew she was full of hot air, but...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

too much hot air, enough to cause greenhouse effect .. i am not sure if you left your comment incomplete on purpose to allow me this pun or not lol nonetheless i wish everyone here a ~~good~~ cold morning/night.