Or we could just process their asylum claims and let them get jobs and pay taxes.
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Fast processing would also be good for sending back those without a valid claim, which will also make a bunch of people happy.
You are in danger of sounding reasonable
It sounds like a good idea but, without an ever-growing backlog of claimants, how do you create the notion that this is a massive problem in order to grab votes?
It's hardly as of there aren't plenty of real problems to ... ah fuck who am I kidding?
Yeah but that would mean actually letting evil immigrants into the country and they can't do that.
This is what happens when you go after the racist moron vote. You end up doing dumb things which invariably end up either not working or being illegal or both. And then the very same right wing nut jobs that you're trying to panda to say that you're too liberal and go vote for whatever the latest iteration of UKIP are today.
It's never going to be a law because it'll be binned a year from now with a quarter of a billion quid and rising down the drain.
It's such a pointless policy they wasted so much money and time on it and it won't ever work, and even if it did pass no one will care because it'll deport all of 30 people by the time it's finished.
The trouble is they've lost sight of the fact that this was only ever supposed to be a vote winner and never a solution to a real problem. The Tories created the problem they're absolutely not going to fix it.
I know that this is kind of the point in all legislation, but has there ever been a law below that directly tells judges how to make a judgement? The language is very explicit.
No, there hasn't. This is a completely egregious overreach by government. In legal terms, they are attempting to state in law the opposite of something which has already been stated as fact by the courts. It calls into question the entire fabric of the UK's legal system if the executive can remove the opportunity for judges to make a decision. There's a word for that: it's called dictatorship.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Senior Tories from across the party are warning that Rishi Sunak’s emergency Rwanda plan will never become law in its current form, ahead of the most critical vote of his premiership.
Meanwhile, a self-styled “star chamber” of legal figures examining the proposals for the Tory right is understood to have found problems that are “extremely difficult to resolve”.
The first major vote on the Rwanda bill, which is designed to ensure that migrants coming to the UK in small boats can be deported to the country without being blocked by legal challenges, is set to take place on Tuesday.
Writing for the Observer on Sunday, Damian Green, who is chair of the One Nation caucus of liberal Conservative MPs, said he wanted to believe the prime minister’s assertion that the proposals remain within the law.
Some MPs believe the party’s whips are simply desperate for the bill to pass on Tuesday, after which Sunak will blame Labour for blocking the Rwanda plan as part of his election pitch.
It comes as Keir Starmer attempts to capitalise on the Tory infighting with a speech appealing directly to those who switched to the Conservatives at the last election.
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